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Petition re Tickmaster Rip Off

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Log onto www.ticeidi.com to sign the petition if you've had enough of TM!!

"Ticeidi.com is the brainchild of one very annoyed citizen of Ireland who is fed up paying exorbitant prices for ‘handling charges’ on concert tickets, sports events tickets, etc. "

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honru

PiE wrote:

But to seriously believe that tickets could be sold in an auction-type way? I know Ticketmaster are a right shower, but that's just never gonna happen.

Already happening in the States.

PiE

Where and how?

By the way, just looked on the US website... $51 for one Pearl Jam ticket + $9.95 "Convenience Charge" per ticket and a $2.50 "Building Facility Charge" per ticket.

We've got it cushty in comparison.

honru

My mistake, Ticketmaster US just have a ticket exchange service. They should be introducing auctions soon enough.

I have heard of some bands (such as Nine Inch Nails) who have done auctions for premium entry/seats, though I believe most of the proceeds went to charity.

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Ticketmaster auctions - http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2006/05/26/ticketmaster-auction.html

PiE

That TicketExchange thing actually looks like quite a good idea to me. It will help stop people getting dodgy tickets from dodgy folk. The auction thing is a bit cynical... but it will never be the standard way of selling tickets. Touts are always gonna get the good tickets and sell them for gross profit, at least with the 'auction' a percentage does go to the artists, however small it may be. I'd still rather not pay some ratbag tout that kinda money for a ticket... not that I'd ever be stupid enough to pay hundreds for one anyway. And if you ask me, anyone who is willing to pay that money deserves to be ripped off.

groovyg

Can you still book tickets in advance in sound cellar??

Colonel Sanders

can i ask why fees are always on a 'per ticket' basis? Surely it takes the same 'effort' and cost to post 3 tickets as it does for 1.

Toast

Simple answer : Because they can

Complex answer : The fees are meant to pay for the entire capital investment into the ticketmaster system. So the salaries of all the people working there, the website servers maintenance and development, rent, printers etc. As well as making some (quite a bit of) profit for themselves.

The cost is split on a per ticket basis rather than a per transaction basis because the fee isnt just covering the printing of each individual ticket.

PiE

Exactly. The only money they get from a ticket sale is their own fees. They get none from the actual ticket price.

Motley Crue

I think ticket prices are too expensive

Sinfonia

The charges are not 'extra'.
There used to be just one price and that was it.
Then somebody caused a big hullabaloo about wanting to know how the price broke down.
So they did.
Now everybody thinks it's all extra. But it's not.

If you go into a record shop (for example), and buy a CD with cash, you pay a credit card charge. It is built into the price.
When you buy a concert ticket at a Ticketmaster outlet, you pay a credit card charge when you pay buy credit card, and you don't when you don't. You have the option.

The €2/€2.25 that you pay at an outlet is an agency fee. The outlet is an agent of Ticketmaster, and is not Ticketmaster itself. The 'Service Charge' does not go into the pocket of the person who serves you. It goes to Ticketmaster and some of it goes to the agent. The outlet in St. Stephen's Green S.C. does not charge this for most events.

Soundcellar may have a smaller service charge, but Soundcellar do not have access to all of the tickets. They are given a smaller allocation.

The outlets and the phone/internet bookings have access to all of the tickets, and all sell from the same batch. So when something sells out in 5 minutes, and you have been queueing, it is because they are being snapped up all over the place from different outlets, and the phone/internet bookings.

The price is set by the artist's management and the promoters. Ticketmaster add a little bit on top of that, and you are given the OPTION of whether to pay a credit card charge or not.

Hope this helps to clear some things up.

rubadub

SumGuy wrote:

When you buy a concert ticket at a Ticketmaster outlet, you pay a credit card charge when you pay buy credit card, and you don't when you don't. You have the option.

I never knew this, how much is the difference in price? is it a % or standard fee.

www.tickets.ie allow you to pay online for box office collection and they actually charge you €1 LESS than face value, so that is €3 less than soundcellar, and up to €7.35 less than ticketmaster. And I presume these guys are not a charity and are making a decent profit, so TM are making €7.35 above and beyond what is a reasonable profit on each ticket.

Ticketmaster add a little bit on top of that

I would imagine the majority of tickets are bought in pairs, I would not call €14.70 on top of what is a reasonable profit to be "a little"

Colonel Sanders

SumGuy wrote:

When you buy a concert ticket at a Ticketmaster outlet, you pay a credit card charge when you pay buy credit card, and you don't when you don't. You have the option.

the above is true in a record shop etc but not online Online you are quoted a €6.35 'service charge'. If you use laser you still pay the full €6.35. In shops you pay extra if paying with visa/mastercard but not online. How can they justify this?

Colonel Sanders

rubadub wrote:

www.tickets.ie allow you to pay online for box office collection and they actually charge you €1 LESS than face value, so that is €3 less than soundcellar, and up to €7.35 less than ticketmaster. And I presume these guys are not a charity and are making a decent profit, so TM are making €7.35 above and beyond what is a reasonable profit on each ticket.

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I searched for tickets to a random gig on both websites (not sure who promotes it so won't mention the band, a tribute band in any case). tickets.ie charged 15 each, whereas the face value on ticketmaster was 13.50, plus the fees they charge. Where are you gtting that tickets.ie charge €1 less tha face value?

Sinfonia

rubadub wrote:

I never knew this, how much is the difference in price? is it a % or standard fee.

It varies somewhat, not sure exactly what it is, something like:
€1.50 per ticket for tickets <€80
and then it goes up to about €2/€3 or more for tickets that cost more than €150.

Something like that, I can't really remember.

And there's no charge on Laser.
(this is in the outlets in Stephen's Green, Jervis SC etc. not sure about shops like Celtic Note)

Colonel Sanders wrote:

the above is true in a record shop etc but not online Online you are quoted a €6.35 'service charge'. If you use laser you still pay the full €6.35. In shops you pay extra if paying with visa/mastercard but not online. How can they justify this?

I'm not sure if I understand the question.
I don't know how the online bookings work to be honest, just the outlets.
I've never bought a ticket online.

ray vaughan

f®eak s&#169 wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised if an alternative to Ticketmaster (like Ticketweb) opens up shop here in a year or two.

I think that Ticketweb and Ticketmaster are the same company. If you do a dns lookup on Ticketweb.com you'll find that the administrative contact is Ticketmaster.

http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=ticketweb.com