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Some people on here make me want to vomit out of my eyes.

dlofnep

Theres a collection of people on here. They have no principals and only live for today. Anything that has happened in the past, stays in the past - despite of the outcome. What I'm referring to is the North.

I'll spare you the for Y amount of years X happened to us, but at one point there were thousands of young and old ready to give up everything they had to rid the ruthless imperialism of Britain from their country.

Nowadays, it's a bunch of yabs who couldn't care less about anyone or anything but themselves. They turn a blind eye at our friends up North who are and have been constantly oppressed by bigot politicians like Ian Paisley who is known for his criticisms of catholics and biased police forces up North.

These are the same people who sing, march and keep our history and culture vibrant through their unmatched passion for their country. The long for a day for Unity in what should never have been divided in the first place. They are second class citizens and have been for a long time in their own native land. And what do we do about it? Some of us actively do our part on elections or through marches, or through debate. The others? Too busy, Eastenders in on the box - No time for those what-ya-macall-its up North.

This is a just cause, our history, doing something right and yet many pass up the chance to help out for their own selfish reasons. They would rather see our culture and history fade away. Our very own language to be scratched off.. and for what? Because a stand needs to be made for simple changes to happen in order for us to revive?

Face the facts. Our country was ripped in half right in front of our eyes, our very own countryment and women brutalised, murdered, raped, mistreated, had their rights and voting ability removed for time. We were colonised by a brutal and vicious sect who are known the world over for mistreatment of the native people. it is our downright duty to maintain our history. We are Irish, not British. I think it's time some of us acted like it.

For those who shed a tear everytime they read our history and feel like they can not do enough, I salute you. For the others, other than tax - you've nothing to offer this country.

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r3nu4l

/ hands flak jacket and helmet to dlofnep

Dave!

800 years of oppression....!!!!!!! :mad:

dlofnep

r3nu4l wrote:

/ hands flak jacket and helmet to dlofnep

Heh, I'm already prepared

Feck em. Sometimes, things have to be said. Too many people are afraid on here of these yabs and can't voice their opinion without ridicule.

dlofnep

Exhibit A

DaveMcG wrote:

800 years of oppression....!!!!!!! :mad:

Thanks Dave!

InFront

dlofnep wrote:

The others? Too busy, Eastenders in on the box - No time for those what-ya-macall-its up North.

If everyone took that attitute the world would be a much safer place. Hopefully there will soon be a day when everyone is too busy with their own lives to get wrapped up in silly political, tribal and extreme nationalistic meanderings.

country was ripped in half right in front of our eyes

You say it like it's a living being. Hundreds of years ago ireland was invaded, then it gained back independence, and now the democratic majority of one province, including many of those whose ancestors would have been the displaced landowners, want to remain in that union. March all you want, democracy is very simple.

Saruman

WTF? Ripped in two? split?? When was there ever a united Ireland in the past... oh yes.. during British rule!! NEVER before British rule was there ever anythign even approaching a country called Ireland with one people and history/culture.
Britain United the island and brought some sort of order.. so they oppressed the people... And left. So what? It was a long time before most of us still living were born.

The vast MAJORITY of people living in the North want to be part of the UK!! The republicans are a minority!

As for not caring! I dont for sure... Britain did not oppress me, they did not do anything to me.. or to anyone who is left alive in my family!!! Get over yourself and move on.

connundrum

I agree in principle. But do you not think that people have simply become bored with the issue? It has dragged on for quite a bit, and in todays world where commercials appear on the tv every 10-12 minutes I'm surprised that quite a number of people still do care.

vomit out of my eyes.

Nice

The Hill Billy

I can understand where the OP is coming from, but a balance needs to be achieved. I'm all for remembering the past & honouring those heroes of the past. However, I don't think that living in the past will achieve much. I prefer to live for the future.

Cliché-ridden, but there ya go.

Sleepy

LOL - I assume this was aimed largely at myself.

History provides many useful lessons but imho the future is a far more important concern.

TBH, there's a thousand other threads on here discussing Northern Ireland. Why not keep your posts to one of those?

Oh, wait, that's right, because if you posted such a load of vitriolic nonsense in one of them you'd probably get a ban for flaming. I could easily write a tirade against republicanism, living in the past, seeing violence as means of political persuasion and all the ignorance that goes with it but I'm not going to.

projectmayhem

request: youtube video of you vomitting out of your own eyes.

Lord Oz

I didn't read your post but was disappointed by the lack of eye vomiting pics.

bustershark

I prefer to look to the future than constantly look at the past.
I find it offers more solutions to problems and less bitterness to swallow.

dlofnep

InFront wrote:

If everyone took that attitute the world would be a much safer place. Hopefully there will soon be a day when everyone is too busy with their own lives to get wrapped up in silly political, tribal and extreme nationalistic meanderings.

Countries could also be colonised at will. It's people like me who stand against it. It's the people who sit on their arse who do nothing to prevent it.

InFront wrote:

You say it like it's a living being. Hundreds of years ago ireland was invaded, then it gained back independence, and now the democratic majority of one province, including many of those whose ancestors would have been the displaced landowners, want to remain in that union. March all you want, democracy is very simple.

It's a small majority, and the majority is a majority of people who weaned out the native owners. I'll spare you the babble, I'm sure your aware of our history, but choose to ignore it.

Saruman wrote:

WTF? Ripped in two? split?? When was there ever a united Ireland in the past...

I think you'll find that incorrect. Ireland was always united by the same common traditions and the same people. It was seperated through provinces, but then again - All countries are seperated in some form - It doesn't neglect the fact that it's still one country.

oh yes.. during British rule!! NEVER before British rule was there ever anythign even approaching a country called Ireland with one people and history/culture.

Sorry, that's wrong again. One language, similar customs.. One name. Ireland has always been Ireland. Brian Boru had control of Ireland. I think you should invest in a history book instead of paraphrasing some other idiot's post on here.

Britain United the island and brought some sort of order.. so they oppressed the people... And left. So what? It was a long time before most of us still living were born.

People were consistently oppressed up North, very recently in a historical timeframe.

The vast MAJORITY of people living in the North want to be part of the UK!! The republicans are a minority!

It's a small majority, not a vast majority.

As for not caring! I dont for sure... Britain did not oppress me, they did not do anything to me.. or to anyone who is left alive in my family!!! Get over yourself and move on.

Of course you don't care. That's been obvious from the get-go. It's about principals, of which you have none. You care not of the loss of life for those who made a stand against Britain and spit in their faces. I'd expect no more from you.

dlofnep

Also, I'd like to note - I apologise for lack of videos of this eye vomiting.

Oh, wait, that's right, because if you posted such a load of vitriolic nonsense in one of them you'd probably get a ban for flaming.

Sorry, it's all historical fact. Not nonsense. And certainly not nonsense because you have labeled it so.

I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to voice my opinion. Just because my opinion varies from your lack of one, doesn't mean I'm here flaming. I'm expressing my passion on the subject and I have every right to do so.

I understand some people on here would much prefer moving on with their lifes.. by all means, do what you wish - But I refuse to forget history. This doesn't mean I'm going to resolve it through violence, but I will rally at all times to ensure that when my children are born, they understand how their country came to be.

I will leave this thread take it's course now. I have made my opinion clear.

Miguel_Sanchez

This thread title made me laugh. Then I read it. And I had another bit of a laugh.

Vomit out my eyes. Classic.

Shouldn't this be on the politics forum?

petes

Thanks for reminding me. Probably would have forgotten about Eastenders.

InFront

dlofnep wrote:

Countries could also be colonised at will. It's people like me who stand against it. It's the people who sit on their arse who do nothing to prevent it.

actually, if everyone was busy focusing on their own lives and kept to themselves, there wouldn't be colonies...

Originally posted by dlofnep
I'm sure your aware of our history, but choose to ignore it.

The history of Waterford, one of the southernmost counties in the republic? Right.

InFront

Jeff_Lebowski wrote:

This thread title made me laugh. Then I read it. And I had another bit of a laugh.

Vomit out my eyes. Classic.

Shouldn't this be on the politics forum?

The last line made me laugh:D

Boston

Which friends are those, the bomb planting murdering scum friends is it or the kneecapping violent drunken drug dealing arsehole friends?

dlofnep

Boston wrote:

Which friends are those, the bomb planting murdering scum friends is it or the kneecapping violent drunken drug dealing arsehole friends?

Why can't someone be passionate about their country without having to be tied to murder? Nice ad hominem.

r3nu4l

Hill Billy wrote:

I can understand where the OP is coming from, but a balance needs to be achieved. I'm all for remembering the past & honouring those heroes of the past. However, I don't think that living in the past will achieve much. I prefer to live for the future.

Cliché-ridden, but there ya go.

That about sums it up for me

I understand what the OP is saying and I think we should publicly celebrate 1916 but I don't think there should be any hate involved.

Boston

dlofnep wrote:

Why can't someone be passionate about their country without having to be tied to murder? Nice ad hominem.

It's the killing thats makes them murderers, nothing else.

CiaranC

Face the facts. Our country was ripped in half right in front of our eyes, our very own countryment and women brutalised, murdered, raped, mistreated, had their rights and voting ability removed for time. We were colonised by a brutal and vicious sect who are known the world over for mistreatment of the native people. it is our downright duty to maintain our history. We are Irish, not British. I think it's time some of us acted like it.

I think it was right about the time when the supposedly oppressed disenfranchised minority started slaughtering innocent children and pregrant women out doing their shopping that people started losing interest in the cause.

dlofnep

r3nu4l wrote:

That about sums it up for me I understand what the OP is saying and I think we should publicly celebrate 1916 but I don't think there should be any hate involved.

My original post might come off as a bit aggressive, but it reflects the mood I was in when I wrote it. I'm sure most people will brush off some of the stuff I said and understand my true intentions.

humanji

dlofnep wrote:

Countries could also be colonised at will. It's people like me who stand against it. It's the people who sit on their arse who do nothing to prevent it.

Well until the advent of time travel there really is nothing you or anyone else can do about it. Why hate people who realise that dwelling on the past does absolutely no good? And why assume because people don't go around campaigning for a united Ireland that they don't care about what happened before?

What happened in our history was terrible, but isn't it better to try and make a better future, you know, something you actually can do something about?

stooge

DLOFNEP,

Its true that a lot of people in the republic nowadays don't care one bit about the north and the years of opression/bias/murders and collusion.

In the past (30/40 years ago), it could be said that the south was at the very least, interested in the wellbeing of northern catholics, most likely due to the fact that neither was much better off than the other.

The recent boom in the economy, Celtic Tiger etc, has led to the standard of living/availability of jobs in the south being significantly better than that in the north. As a result, southeners have become fixated with wealth, too wrapped up in this to care about the divide.

Its a prime example of how power and wealth matter more to a lot of people than principles, courage and honour.

Just in case you think I'd advocating a mass invasion of the north by the south, I'm not...I'm merely saying that a change of attitude is needed by the broad majority of people in the republic. Theres more to life than wealth and cowardness. After all - the south sold the north out in the first place....

dlofnep

Boston wrote:

It's the killing thats makes them murderers, nothing else.

What are you on about? I could do without your red herrings. My original post has nothing to do with anything you're trying to glue.

humanji

dlofnep wrote:

Also, I'd like to note - I apologise for lack of videos of this eye vomiting.

And apology not accepted until we see vomit!!!

dlofnep

humanji wrote:

Well until the advent of time travel there really is nothing you or anyone else can do about it. Why hate people who realise that dwelling on the past does absolutely no good? And why assume because people don't go around campaigning for a united Ireland that they don't care about what happened before?

What happened in our history was terrible, but isn't it better to try and make a better future, you know, something you actually can do something about?

Hi Humanji - I don't hate anyone. I was just a little tempered posting. I mean no harm in my true nature. And I'm not referring to those who campaign. I was referring to the people who outright say that we should get rid of our language and culture and forget about our history.

stooge wrote:

DLOFNEP,

Its true that a lot of people in the republic nowadays don't care one bit about the north and the years of opression/bias/murders and collusion.

In the past (30/40 years ago), it could be said that the south was at the very least, interested in the wellbeing of northern catholics, most likely due to the fact that neither was much better off than the other.

The recent boom in the economy, Celtic Tiger etc, has led to the standard of living/availability of jobs in the south being significantly better than that in the north. As a result, southeners have become fixated with wealth, too wrapped up in this to care about the divide.

Its a prime example of how power and wealth matter more to a lot of people than principles, courage and honour.

Just in case you think I'd advocating a mass invasion of the north by the south, I'm not...I'm merely saying that a change of attitude is needed by the broad majority of people in the republic. Theres more to life than wealth and cowardness. After all - the south sold the north out in the first place....

I salute you sir.

Celticfire

dlofnep wrote:

It's people like me who stand against it. It's the people who sit on their arse who do nothing to prevent it.

What exactly is it that you do?

Apart from ranting on a forum...