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etymology of "pony" and other dublin casino slang

robinlacey

anyone know where these expressions (pony for 25,monkey for 500,etc) come from?
are they just a dublin thing,or are they used elsewhere in ireland,or in any other countries?
and are there other animals used for different denominations?

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robinlacey

lol,that's pretty good

The_Chopper

Mellor wrote:

Is its €5000?
kinda like a monkey, only bigger.

Aparently a Gorilla is a monkey and a half - €750

spurious

Slightly OT, one theory for 'quid' is that it supposedly came from Irish navvies (and soldiers in the British forces) speaking of 'mo chuid airgead' - sounded like quid to them.

mdwexford

Shetland

Marq

An Ceapall Beag!

bohsman

A deuce is used a bit, nobodys mentioned a small horse for a pony yet either.

john@thenewvic

Solksjaer wrote:

Lol, how many creatures can you get into the one sentence. What though is a 'grand' rhyming slang for?

In ye olde days of bartering, the currency were much 'arder to discern.

Player 1. I raise you 2 hens and one Pig.
Player 2. What do you have left behind you
P 1. 6 Pigs and 10 hens (nervously)
P 2 I reraise you 5 goat and 1 goose plus all your hens and pigs
P.1 Eh, dealer, how much is that to me?
Dealer. 5 goat, 1 goose, 6 pigs and 10 Hens.
P1. FOLD
P2. Tips dealer 4 eggs. Thank you squire.
(Dealer..*bangs egg on table* (DOH)
PI Tilts and releases hound on on player 2.

Thats brilliant. Still laughing.

In Limerick we call €200 a deuce. Didn't see it pop up anywhere else on the thread yet. Is it used in the big smoke?

Macspower

pony is a Dublin expression! They used to bet in Pyeballs and now that they have a "few bob".... they have turned into ponies...

Healio

nicnicnic wrote:

yep thats it, Amount ?

either means 4/1 as a price, or just four hundred/thousand whatever you bet in

GrangeUtd

http://www.aldertons.com/money.htm

this has the lot on it!!!

nicnicnic

Healio wrote:

are you thinking of ruof (four spelled backwards??) usually used by bookmakers.

yep thats it, Amount ?

Healio

nicnicnic wrote:

not 100% on this one but think a rofe = €30

are you thinking of ruof (four spelled backwards??) usually used by bookmakers.

Mellor

The_Chopper wrote:

Any of you guys know what a gorilla is?

Is its €5000?
kinda like a monkey, only bigger.

nicnicnic

Flem = €5

cock = €10

trum = €300

half = €50

not 100% on this one but think a rofe = €30

Hawk Eye

I was clearly mistaken that a grand was cockney slang, think 'bag of sand'=grand.
I must baffle some newbie with 'sorry bud ye wouldn't change up me monkey for 4 ton and 4 ponies' next time I'm moved table.

Killme00

kpnuts wrote:

it ain't no fun when the rabbit's got the machete

it is when he is caught in the headlights!!

kpnuts

Killme00 wrote:

oh so thats what they mean by gorilla warfare

it ain't no fun when the rabbit's got the machete

Killme00

Solksjaer wrote:

Is it an animal that carrys out urban attacks on state/regular forces, wearing a common isignia with an appetite for yellow bended fruit.

oh so thats what they mean by gorilla warfare

Solksjaer

The_Chopper wrote:

Any of you guys know what a gorilla is?

Is it an animal that carrys out urban attacks on state/regular forces, wearing a common isignia with an appetite for yellow bended fruit.

Marq

Hawk Eye wrote:

If anyone uses pony/monkey at the table, I have them down as a fish.

That's pretty funny.

Killme00

The_Chopper wrote:

Any of you guys know what a gorilla is?

its a large primate..dont call one a monkey, apparently they arent

DeVore

The_Chopper wrote:

Any of you guys know what a gorilla is?

A large endangered primate.

DeV.

The_Chopper

Any of you guys know what a gorilla is?

Lazare

Solksjaer wrote:

Lol, how many creatures can you get into the one sentence. What though is a 'grand' rhyming slang for?

In ye olde days of bartering, the currency were much 'arder to discern.

Player 1. I raise you 2 hens and one Pig.
Player 2. What do you have left behind you
P 1. 6 Pigs and 10 hens (nervously)
P 2 I reraise you 5 goat and 1 goose plus all your hens and pigs
P.1 Eh, dealer, how much is that to me?
Dealer. 5 goat, 1 goose, 6 pigs and 10 Hens.
P1. FOLD
P2. Tips dealer 4 eggs. Thank you squire.
(Dealer..*bangs egg on table* (DOH)PI Tilts and releases hound on on player 2.

LMFAO!!!

BigCityBanker

jbravado wrote:

(famous f1 driver)

really?

Trippie

jbravado wrote:

Ertn Senna(famous f1 driver) is sometimes used for a tenner.........

so famous you dont even know his name...:D

its ayrton

jbravado

Ertn Senna(famous f1 driver) is sometimes used for a tenner.........

PiperT

robinlacey wrote:

anyone know where these expressions (pony for 25,monkey for 500,etc) come from?
are they just a dublin thing,or are they used elsewhere in ireland,or in any other countries?
and are there other animals used for different denominations?

Pearl Diver = €5 (also SkyDiver)
Cock & Hen = €10 (I've also heard it being referred to as a Yul Brenner)
€20 is simply a "score"
Pony and Monkey are commonly used gambling expressions in both Ireland and UK.

GrangeUtd

a term for 50 is a 'bullseye'

and a 'hawaii' as in the tv show hawaii 50

also a 'hall door' slang for score (20)

a 'bag of sand' a grand (1000)

a 'bluey' 20 euro

ArmaniJeanss

robinlacey wrote:

i vaguely remember hearing some other denominations that had slang terms (other than ton for 100),anyone know any?

When I was growing up in InnerCity Dublin, others in use were 'SkyDiver' for a Fiver, and 'CockAndHen' for Ten.