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Knackers, crazy foam and a perfect day

Fanny Cradock

I woke up today at 9:10, it was beautiful outside and within 30 mins I had received news that I was to start my new job on Monday, to top it all off, I had managed to get free passes to the concerts in Marlay Park. Excellent stuff! I went into town to meet a friend, have a wander around and look at the beautiful ladies. A perfect day!

As my friend and I were sitting along the boardwalk a couple of knackers, both clearly pissed, stopped beside us to spray red crazy foam out of a can in our direction. Oh, the hilarity! Clearly thinking that the two of us weren't worth the hassle, they then stumbled on a few meters until they came across a fat chap in his early 30's by himself. The leader of the two, adorned in his celtic jersey, gold chains and sovereign rings, arched his neck a few inches from the face of the fat guy (who was now standing) and said, "are yiz well?". Obviously the guy didn't answer because the celtic knacker ROARED the question again, this time even closer to the fat chaps face. His friend, half empty pint glass in hand, looked on, clearly amused at the way events were transpiring, and cackled. Anywho, foam was sprayed, the fat guy lashed out, the knacker retaliated (his friend, althouth amused, clearly wasn't into it), there was a bit of a tussle but nothing major.

As the fat guy walked away (I think he was a tourist - all the more shame about it) the lesser of the two knackers shouted some mindless tripe along the lines of "UP THE RA!". And that was that!

No doubt this, and MUCH worse, happens every day in our capitol, but I found it shocking nonetheless (despite the fact that both my friend and I have been victims of worse violence). I believe that if anything major had happened we would have stepped in, but luckly it didn't come to that. I just don't understand how a mindless thug can delight in random terror. Does he go to bed thinking "that was some of my best work today"?

I felt ashamed for my nation. Of all the places I've travelled I've never encountered knackers like Irish knackers.

I'm not sure exactly why I'm typing this, I guess to see what peoples opinions are about the state of things in our country - is it going to the dogs, i.e. getting worse? What can be done about these emotional degenerates (no doubt those pints they were drinking was bought with dole money)? Is it just me, or is it worse in Ireland?

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Fanny Cradock

If we sent them off to Afghanistan they would only end up spraying crazy foam in the locals faces. I think some sort of "knacker wars" would be better. That way everybody's a winner.

[Deleted User]

I agree there is no other country with scumbags like in Ireland. It totally ruins the place. Dublin is wasting its time trying to be all European and stylish when there's knacks everywhere bringing down the tone. Yes, Spain has its knackers but they don't go about terrorising random people and there aren't nearly as many. Same with France, there are many low income or jobless people in Paris and I've never had a problem there. I've been in Harlem, the Bronx and other 'dangerous' places in New York and the locals were grand. The only place on a par would be Britain, I think. They have more than their fair share of chavs.

Terry

IzzyWizzy wrote:

I agree there is no other country with scumbags like in Ireland. It totally ruins the place. Dublin is wasting its time trying to be all European and stylish when there's knacks everywhere bringing down the tone. Yes, Spain has its knackers but they don't go about terrorising random people and there aren't nearly as many. Same with France, there are many low income or jobless people in Paris and I've never had a problem there. I've been in Harlem, the Bronx and other 'dangerous' places in New York and the locals were grand. The only place on a par would be Britain, I think. They have more than their fair share of chavs.

no trouble in france?
you didn't hear about this then?

godtabh

julep wrote:

no trouble in france?
you didn't hear about this then?

They were race riots werent they? Different thing surely.

IzzyWizzy wrote:

I've been in Harlem, the Bronx and other 'dangerous' places in New York and the locals were grand.

I've been to the same. Some times a bit drunk making noise. Not a bother people minded there own.

If you were to do that in Dublin trouble wouldnt be to far from finding you. even if you're just walking down the street trouble can just be around the corner from you

magpie

Spain has its knackers but they don't go about terrorising random people and there aren't nearly as many. Same with France

That's because the Spanish and French sensibly keep their dib-dabs ghetto-ised and the Police give them a good shoeing if they show their faces in the respectable parts of town.

In Ireland however we seem to feel the need to construct 'social housing' boltholes for them tucked away behind every nice street and neighbourhood, so they can emerge like Celtic-shirt wearing woodlice from beneath a disturbed plantpot.

CiaranC

hah, great post magpie.

We need to contruct some camps out on the Curragh and start gassing the ****ers.

layke

That's because in Spain and France the police carry Guns and batons.

Any tossing about it skull cracking time. Here in Ireland we have pussy-foot politions who won't allow such drastic measures unless there is a riot.

Hmm, interesting idea. But the only equipment they get to clear the fields with should be ridiculously oversized clown shoes. With metal weights in them, just to make sure.

I was thinking in terms of issuing mine-clearing mallets - but same idea.

Why not both? We can all be winners here.

cupthehand

One simple solution, every scanger, knacker, thug, scumbag, lowlife, sham should have at least two yaers national service to do 18-20 but seeing as most of the decrepid creatures mentioned above don't stay in school it should be 15-20 for anyone that leaves school. Works a treat in other countries.

Terry

yeah. let's teach them how to kill people.

[Deleted User]

julep I didn't say there was no trouble in France. Obviously there's trouble in every country, but race riots are a completely different thing to picking on random strangers.

dr.bollocko

Thats totally true. Race riots, socially, if warranted are a valid political statement. hassling random strangers is for **** and nazis.

Terry

people who take part in race riots are just as likely to hassle you in the street. do you really think every single person who took part in those riots did so because they felt aggrieved?
there are scumbags in every single country in the world. they are not exclusive to Ireland.

you won't see many poor people on the streets of paris because they have all been herded out of the city and ghettoised.

dr.bollocko

Being in a privileged position ourselves I dont think that we have the adequate knowledge or experiences to comment on the motivations for a race riot. I think irrational acts often define turbulent times in the history of a nation. (Looking at ourselves here) Who are we to say what defines a race rioter and what he is or isnt likely to do. So as far as that goes I dont think that your comment about a race rioter being likely to hassle you in the street is necessarily a fair one, when weighed up against potentially years of abuse and a lack of facilities, jobs, money and privileges. Its often human nature to just say "**** this for a state of affairs, Im not willing to do this anymore" and that could and does happen to anyone. Race riots are irrational acts with a defined purpose. At least theres a reason behind them, whereas random street violence is the preserve of the true scumbag, and a favourite amongst many many irish morons.

Terry

my point is that there are some people who will use a riot as an excuse to be violent. simple as that.

[Deleted User]

...love ulster anyone?

[Jackass]

No doubt this was in the middle of the day?

I maintain my argument for a baby licence scheme.

If you are a scumbag (Oxford English Dictionary Defines As: Living off the state your entire life, persuing no education, make no effort to improve your life, just moan how **** it is and how dole should be more, can't get a job, criminal record optional) you can not obtain a baby licence until you hold down a job for at least 12 months and during this time claim nothing from the state with the exception of social housing.

Hey sh*thead, heard of McDonalds? Construction? Cleaner? just a few parts of industry looking for people, but then, you'd have to get out of bed and work...

Learn how to type, life's tough, get a fu*king helmet!

If you have a baby without a licence, the childs reproductive organs are sabotaged (they can still enjoy sex at 11, but will not be able to reproduce), this way, the lazy, useless, sociopaths will gradually be phased out of society.

Ever heard of Darwin? He has it down. And no, I'm not related to Hitler, I'm just a straight talking problem solver.

Damn these "Democracys" with their "Human Rights" and "Civil Liberties" :mad:

dr.bollocko

The trouble is that this is the only real way of solving social problems, the hitler way.
Otherwise we just have to put up with it.
And bertie would look ridiculous with a tache.

Terry

Nick wrote:

No doubt this was in the middle of the day?

I maintain my argument for a baby licence scheme.

If you are a scumbag (Oxford English Dictionary Defines As: Living off the state your entire life, persuing no education, make no effort to improve your life, just moan how **** it is and how dole should be more, can't get a job, criminal record optional) you can not obtain a baby licence until you hold down a job for at least 12 months and during this time claim nothing from the state with the exception of social housing.

Hey sh*thead, heard of McDonalds? Construction? Cleaner? just a few parts of industry looking for people, but then, you'd have to get out of bed and work...

Learn how to type, life's tough, get a fu*king helmet!

If you have a baby without a licence, the childs reproductive organs are sabotaged (they can still enjoy sex at 11, but will not be able to reproduce), this way, the lazy, useless, sociopaths will gradually be phased out of society.

Ever heard of Darwin? He has it down. And no, I'm not related to Hitler, I'm just a straight talking problem solver.

Damn these "Democracys" with their "Human Rights" and "Civil Liberties" :mad:

YEAH!!!

because we all know that scumbags only come from families who survive on social welfare.

Sgt. Politeness

ive said it before and ill say it again, this would never have happened under the nazis

[Deleted User]

sieg heil, bro.

all the same, theres no place in this society for scumbags. unfortunately everyone isn't born into the same family, people are given different opportunities and help throughout thier lives.

the point is: noone said it was going to be easy. you're poor, you're from a ****hole housing estate full of drugs and crime. get over it. you're either part of the problem, or part of the solution.

and we need a solution.

melekalikimaka

mloc wrote:

you're either part of the problem, or part of the solution.

and we need a solution.

gas the mo fos

Karl Hungus

dr.bollocko wrote:

Thats totally true. Race riots, socially, if warranted are a valid political statement. hassling random strangers is for **** and nazis.

Consider if the shoe was on the other foot for a moment, and that all the stormfront types who feel grievances at the government, immigrants and such like, all went and started a big riot. I don't believe for a second anyone would be coming on here stating how it's a "Valid political statement" and excusing what would be nothing more than en masse scumbaggery.

dr.bollocko wrote:

Being in a privileged position ourselves I dont think that we have the adequate knowledge or experiences to comment on the motivations for a race riot. I think irrational acts often define turbulent times in the history of a nation. (Looking at ourselves here) Who are we to say what defines a race rioter and what he is or isnt likely to do. So as far as that goes I dont think that your comment about a race rioter being likely to hassle you in the street is necessarily a fair one, when weighed up against potentially years of abuse and a lack of facilities, jobs, money and privileges. Its often human nature to just say "**** this for a state of affairs, Im not willing to do this anymore" and that could and does happen to anyone. Race riots are irrational acts with a defined purpose. At least theres a reason behind them, whereas random street violence is the preserve of the true scumbag, and a favourite amongst many many irish morons.

Being in a privileged position ourselves (Which obviously includes you) you somehow feel in a position to berate others for commenting on the motivations behind a race riot, but then you go and make your own commentary on the motivations. Surely you saw the irony when you wrote this?

You state lack of jobs as reason for this 'Valid' riot, and you'll very often read threads by people on stormfront complaining of exactly that, aswell as lack of housing and benefits. Many of them feel very hard done by, ignored by authorites, and demonised by the media. But I'm very sure that if there was a race riot instigated by like of stormfront, nobody would be excusing it, no matter what the reasons behind it are.

Anyway, I think we're getting a little off-topic here. I think Julep's point was that we're not the only country with a scumbag problem. And this article outlines a lot of problems pre-2005.

So I don't think we should be jumping to excuse any senseless act of violence.

Terry

that's a fairly loaded piece of writing. with sentiments like that, is it any wonder the muslims in france felt the need to riot.
of course, i don't know enough about the situation there to comment on it, but if the majority of french people feel that way, then i can see where the muslims were coming from.

anyway, yes, i was saying that there are scumbags in every country.
it just seems that the Irish government doesn't really do as good a job of hiding them from the tourists as other countries do.

Karl Hungus

julep wrote:

but if the majority of french people feel that way

Like the way we feel about knackers?

Terry

in what context are you using the word "Knackers"?

if you mean travellers, then there is a certain similarity in the way both communities are treated.
if you mean sucmbags, then i just say kill 'em all.

[Deleted User]

If the gardai were armed with batons, I dont see this happening as much.

I agree, I've walked through L.A, New York, London by myself during the night-time and I never once felt .. afraid. Yet, even places in Galway, I get a slight tinge when I see a few knackers walking towards me.

Why, only a few weeks ago was I walking home when this drunken idiot picked fights with 3 german lads. Complete scumbag. The german lads had him on the ground immediately and walked away. He gets up, storms after them. I was walking with a friend. After a short-time I decided it safe to walk down the same road (it was a short-cut home). We hear these footsteps running up behind us. He appears shouting, "you want a broken nose?" He takes a swing for me, just missing my nose by an inch. He then stops and runs after someone else.

If the streets were better policed by gardai who were armed and willing to do something about it, I can't see anything like this happening again.

Karl Hungus

julep wrote:

in what context are you using the word "Knackers"?

if you mean travellers, then there is a certain similarity in the way both communities are treated.
if you mean sucmbags, then i just say kill 'em all.

In the context that everyone uses the term knacker, skanger, scumbag, scobe interchangably.

stepbar

Well nothing suprises me anymore..., I was walking down to the green on thurs to catch the Luas, was about 7pm. Seen a load of knackers at the front entrance to the park across from the sc. Got my ticket and went off to get something to drink. Lone behold knacker in celtic jersey proceeds to whip out his lad and piss up against a lamp post, the dirty bastard...:eek: Coming back on the Luas a lad hopped on clearly out of it on drugs chatting away on the mobile with his dealer to set up his next fix. I thought to myself what is Dublin coming too.....

[Deleted User]

Travellers aren't all that bad though. The majority of the ones I've met have been decent enough. If the young ones cause any hassle, find out who their parents are and tell them. Morethanlikely they wont be too happy to hear bout it.

Ho-hum

Terry

i saw an article in the sun the other day about a drug dealer up north who was murdered by unionists because he went onto an estate they had banned him from. they used machetes on him and cut his body in two (apparently. i can't be sure. it was the sun after all).
anyway, they had a picture of his mother and she was crying.
naturally enough too. it's her son who has been killed.
that's something people need to remember when they call for all these scumbags to be killed (yes, i am aware of my above comment. it was tongue in cheek). they are all someones son or daughter.
i feel no sympathy for these ****, but somebody somewhere loves them.
perhaps the national service thing is a good idea. however, as i stated earlier, i does teach them other ways to kill and that's never a good thing.
kicking someone in the head is one thing. knowing where to land a fatal blow is another.
on the national service thing though. who decides which person is enough of a scumbag to do national service? those dudes from blackrock college would be scumbags in my eyes, but most people here seem to think that scumbags are only present in working class areas.