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Stabbing

Binomate

Right, last night my younger brother went off to a party up the road with about 20 of his friends. The party ended at about 2 or 3 AM and the group of 20 decide to go get some munch in a near by resteraunt. Walking down past a well known park in South Dublin, four lads jumped out and ambush the group demanding their phones. Before they could even reach in to their pockets three of them had been stabbed. All three ended up in the emergency room while the rest of the group made it safely away to nearby houses.

What in the name of holy bejesus goes on in someone's head that they think it might be a good fucking idea to stab someone? You hear about stabbings on the news etc. all the time but the reality of it all has only hit me now. Some prick wanted to put a blade in to someone else because he thinks he's hard. I can't understand in any context how anyone might see this as a reasonable or justifyable action. Can someone please explain?

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18AD

JAYsus. Sorry to hear about that, hope everyone's alright. I live literally 3 minutes from Bushy and never had any hassle there myself, but I may be avoiding it from now on. Especially those late night strolls near the river

mang87

Some people are just complete scum that don't deserve to live, really. That's just how it is. I got my face kicked in about 2 months ago because some lad wanted my phone. I'm not the fighting type, so I didn't put up any resistance. Didn't bloody change the outcome, I couldn't leave the house for 3 weeks because I looked lik the elephant man. It was an amazing experience to witness humanity in it's lowest form. I wish I could say that most of them will get what's coming to them, but most of them won't, they'll live on their lives being scum and ****ing enjoying it... It is rather hard to be happy in including yourself as part of the human race. If these people are part of it, I don't want to me $:\$

Sorry to hear about that man

jesus_thats_gre

Binomate wrote:

All three ended up in the emergency room while the rest of the group made it safely away to nearby houses.

Its great that the remaing 17 ran away.

Terry

DaveMcG wrote:

Bring back the vigis......

or maybe use all that energy to get the politicians to give the cops a bit more power over these scumbags and name & shame inept and lazy cops.

seamus

Yeah, bushy park is a dodgy one at night. As said, plenty of scumbags come down from Finglas (and of course from Templeogue/Terenure) because the people and Gardai don't know them there and go down the back because it's next to impossible to get caught by the Gardai in there.

It's one thing someone just being a thug and assaulting people for money, but having zero regard for human life is another step down the ladder altogether.

Carrying weapons to defend yourself is generally a bad idea - more often than not, the weapon will be turned on you, and even if you manage to use it, you'll probably find yourself in the dock and paying compensation to some worthless piece of **** who'd sooner stab you in the head than look at you.

Dave!

julep wrote:

or maybe use all that energy to get the politicians to give the cops a bit more power over these scumbags and name & shame inept and lazy cops.

Well I was gonna say "more jails, tougher judges, less rights for criminals, and harsher sentences", but I'm sure someone will respond to that with "more love, education, cuddles, care, and forgiveness".

Just chuck them in jail and throw away the key! I don't care what underpriveledged background you're from, or how much your dad drank, you stab someone, you go to jail for minimum 8 years.

CuLT

I'm pretty sure almost every scumbag in the Knocklyon/Terenure/Templeogue area are scobies from Whitechurch doing the rounds.

Only time I ever passed bushy at that time of night in anything travelling less than 50 km/h was a few years back on a bicycle. And it sobered me up to no end. A really dangerous place at that time of night.

Terry

DaveMcG wrote:

Well I was gonna say "more jails, tougher judges, less rights for criminals, and harsher sentences", but I'm sure someone will respond to that with "more love, education, cuddles, care, and forgiveness".

Just chuck them in jail and throw away the key! I don't care what underpriveledged background you're from, or how much your dad drank, you stab someone, you go to jail for minimum 8 years.

no, i'm with you on that one.
i had a fairly rough childhood and i committed some crimes (nothing too serious) when i was younger, but i was always willing to face my punishment. thankfully i never had to go to jail though.
it's a cliche, but, if you can't face the time, then don't do the crime.

nlgbbbblth

DaveMcG wrote:

Well I was gonna say "more jails, tougher judges, less rights for criminals, and harsher sentences", but I'm sure someone will respond to that with "more love, education, cuddles, care, and forgiveness".

Just chuck them in jail and throw away the key! I don't care what underpriveledged background you're from, or how much your dad drank, you stab someone, you go to jail for minimum 8 years.

The 'more love, education...' etc argument is only brought out when the perpetrators are from underprivileged backgrounds.

If a posh dude does the stabbing then the same woolly liberals will be screaming for him to be locked up for life.

The theory that the middle / upper classes get treated easier by the courts is b*llocks.

Real-life example: Anabels case vs New Ross murder of Swedish flower seller.

Chucky the tree

seamus wrote:

Yeah, bushy park is a dodgy one at night. As said, plenty of scumbags come down from Finglas (and of course from Templeogue/Terenure) because the people and Gardai don't know them there and go down the back because it's next to impossible to get caught by the Gardai in there.
.

Finglas? You sure you dont mean tallaght? Thats where most of the scum would come down from.

Find it a bit strange that 4 lads where sitting in the park at 3am waiting for bystanders to walk past to mug/stab them. Fair play to the rest of the lads for legging it off though, that was well sound of them....

Where abouts did it happen? Near the main road? Going through/near any park at 3am is always a dodgy idea.

Terry

no possibility it could be locals?

everyone seems to be placing the blame elsewhere. there are scumbags in every town in the country.

Cuddlesworth

julep wrote:

no possibility it could be locals?

everyone seems to be placing the blame elsewhere. there are scumbags in every town in the country.

If you knew Terenure/Templeouge, you would know that if it was locals the lads would know who they are.

Bushy park is extremely inaccessible but located quite close to many commoditys such as off-licenses, shopping centres and restarants/chippers. Of the many parks in Dublin it's is the best to drink in if your a scumbag.

poobum

Binomate wrote:

The Park was Bushy Park. Gardaí and Ambulances were called and from what I heard, people were arested who were hanging around the park, found with blood on their clothes. Caught red handed so to speak. Wouldn't suprise me if they get away with it though.

kind ainteresting i heard about dat...but what wud of been only a nite b4...my mate got put in hospital by 4 guys...for no reason! he was walking home from my sis 21st...when he was walking by and one of da lads smashed him in head with brick...split head open...he went to ground den one tried to strangle him...and they stamped on his head for few mins till ppl stopped it! da guys ran off...they er looking for a fite...they are scum! my friend nearly died! and likely wud of had it not been stopped! its horrible! disgustion stuff....

poobum

krazy_8s wrote:

If you knew Terenure/Templeouge, you would know that if it was locals the lads would know who they are.

Bushy park is extremely inaccessible but located quite close to many commoditys such as off-licenses, shopping centres and restarants/chippers. Of the many parks in Dublin it's is the best to drink in if your a scumbag.

cept tymon!(think its how spelt)

Zillah

How very strange. I've gone for literally hundreds of late night walks in Bushy park and I have not once seen another living soul. This was a few years ago mind you. Perhaps I was there too late, im talking three/four/five o'clock in the morning. Maybe all the scumbags had gone to bed?

oulu

You dont know that, how can you think that scumbags only come from certain area types, did you not hear about the guys outside of annabells a few yrs back.scumbags is not a social factor you either are or are not a scumbag.

CuLT wrote:

I'm pretty sure almost every scumbag in the Knocklyon/Terenure/Templeogue area are scobies from Whitechurch doing the rounds.

Only time I ever passed bushy at that time of night in anything travelling less than 50 km/h was a few years back on a bicycle. And it sobered me up to no end. A really dangerous place at that time of night.

Victor McDade

If this happened in Singapore, those scumbags would probably now be in jail where they would be treated how they deserve for a couple of years then they'd be hanged. Harsh? Maybe. But with the death penalty as a deterant, the crime rate out there is far lower than here

Brian Capture

oulu wrote:

You dont know that, how can you think that scumbags only come from certain area types, did you not hear about the guys outside of annabells a few yrs back.scumbags is not a social factor you either are or are not a scumbag.

*yawn*

Most violent attacks are by skangers.

Anyway - didn't the victim in the Anabels case throw the first punch? No one is saying he deserved to die but if he started the fight then that should be taken into account?

Huggles

Brian Capture wrote:

*yawn*

Most violent attacks are by skangers.

Most ridiculous generalisation I have ever seen. :rolleyes:

oulu

to be a skanger is somebody rich nor poor who attacks an innocent person
.

Brian Capture wrote:

*yawn*

Anyway - didn't the victim in the Anabels case throw the first punch? No one is saying he deserved to die but if he started the fight then that should be taken into account?

Most violent attacks are by skangers

Brian Capture

TheGooner wrote:

Most ridiculous generalisation I have ever seen. :rolleyes:

Any hassle I have ever gotten in my life

- Threatened at bus stop with 'What you bleedin' staring at?'
- Held up with a syringe
- Beaten up for having long hair
- Called a **** on the DART because I was reading a book
- Being spat at on the nightlink

has come from

White
Working class
Males
With strong Dublin accents

i.e. Skangers.

Dyr

Brian Capture wrote:

Any hassle I have ever gotten in my life

has come from

White
Working class
Males
With strong Dublin accents

i.e. Skangers.

i.e me

Brian Capture wrote:

- Threatened at bus stop with 'What you bleedin' staring at?'
- Held up with a syringe
- Beaten up for having long hair
- Called a **** on the DART because I was reading a book
- Being spat at on the nightlink

karma is an amazing thing

Binomate

Well the guys who were arrested in the park admited to everything. Turns out they were from Crumlin. I'm not sure where the stab victims stand now but they are OK which I guess is the most important factor. One of them had to have an operation to fix some tendon or something.

Savman

Brian Capture wrote:

- Beaten up for having long hair

Well in all fairness....

Dave!

Bambi wrote:

i.e me

hehe, owned!

Terry

a friend of mine is stationed in crumlin. i'll see if i can find anything out about the offenders.

griffdaddy

dirtbags from crumlin and greenhills have been coming down for years to that end of rathfarnham starting on people and generally being a pain in the arse. One time there were loads of them drinking next to the dodder in kilvere park, behind tesco, and all the young people in rathfarnham decided enough was enough and went down with hammers and bats and stuff, it wasnt that violent but the scumbags got the message and disappeared, i hope there's not a new wave of them around now

Dermington

Binomate wrote:

The party ended at about 2 or 3 AM and the group of 20 decide to go get some munch in a near by resteraunt

I F*CKING HATE THAT PHRASE!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

I hate it when people use more than two or three !'s trying to get their point across.

(it doesn't help)

oulu

My brother was attacked by 3 thugs last night, after they gave him a few kicks, punches he ran and fell 2 of them went after him and one said to the other kick him in the teeth thanks God they missed he is now ok . I really believe these so called hard men should be pistol whiped in public,