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Do you drink and drive?

Zebra3

Given some mad FF-ers rant that rural drivers should be allowed have 'a couple', do you drink and drive?

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rick_fantastic

does drink driving on a moped count?

Zebra3

rick_fantastic wrote:

does drink driving on a moped count?

Yeah, as does on a bicycle.

casanova_kid

is this a new appeal from FF for the idiot vote.

rick_fantastic

i dont really consider having a few cans or pints and then driving a moped really drink driving.

i wouldnt have more than 6 cans / pints and then drive my moped home

Sam Vimes

rick_fantastic wrote:

i dont really consider having a few cans or pints and then driving a moped really drink driving.

i wouldnt have more than 6 cans / pints and then drive my moped home

try that argument in front of a judge and see how far it gets you. don't pass go, don't collect 200 pounds

Litcagral

rick_fantastic wrote:

i dont really consider having a few cans or pints and then driving a moped really drink driving.

i wouldnt have more than 6 cans / pints and then drive my moped home

As it's a legal matter, your opinion won't cut any ice with a Garda or judge.

rick_fantastic

i call it a calculated risk. i dont drive on main roads so the chances of being caught are minimal. i wouldnt drink and drive on main roads.

cgf

Great logic there - so all the drivers with drink on them take to the side roads.

I think you are also missing the point - it is not about being caught, it is about the risk that you pose to yourself and, more importantly, others.

Gaillimhtaibhse

Currently Stateside on stage. Remember the second Matrix movie? Reloaded? They were told to stay off the freeways as they were suicide.

They claim over here that more people die in the US every year than during the Viet Nam War. And half of these "accidents" are caused by drunk drivers. Maybe the script in Matrix was right?:eek:

Litcagral

rick_fantastic wrote:

i call it a calculated risk. i dont drive on main roads so the chances of being caught are minimal. i wouldnt drink and drive on main roads.

You may be involved in an accident whether it's your fault or not. Many accidents, including fatal ones, happen on 'side' roads. If the other driver suspects that you may be over the legal limit, they are going to involve the Gardai to strengthen their case. It's human nature. The Gardai may also be contacted by a member of the public who may know that you have been drinking whether you have been involved in an accident or not. Each Garda area also utilises their unmarked cars in a variety of ways.

ST*

rick_fantastic wrote:

does drink driving on a moped count?

:eek:

<I did not just see that>

No, never did, never would.
Its the most idiotic, selfish thing someone could do.
Fine if the drink driver doesnt value their own life, but as soon as you turn the key in the ignition - there is a chance you could kill someone else.

robinph

Never would have gone out with the intention of driving home after a couple of pints anyway. But then after getting completely plastered at a mates one time I then for some reason ended up driving later that night, and I'm not completely sure why, I then proceded to drive into the side of an off duty cops car at a mini roundabout.

Nice fine and an 18 month ban later I now actually lock the keys to my vehicle away whenever I'm going out on the beers, just to make it that much more difficult for me if I were to get the urge to start driving later on that night.

Devon

Atari Jaguar?

RuggieBear

Litcagral wrote:

You may be involved in an accident whether it's your fault or not. Many accidents, including fatal ones, happen on 'side' roads. If the other driver suspects that you may be over the legal limit, they are going to involve the Gardai to strengthen their case. It's human nature. The Gardai may also be contacted by a member of the public who may know that you have been drinking whether you have been involved in an accident or not. Each Garda area also utilises their unmarked cars in a variety of ways.

Just as an example

Some friends of a friend of mine were dicking about in a car one early morning (4am or so) and were reversing round a roundabout anticlockwise when they got whacked by another car they hadn't noticed. He hadn't got any lights on

It turns out the driver off the other car was absolutely bladdered and didn't even realise he had hit someone. anyway both cars were wrecked and jammed together so they had to call the GARDA....guess who got the entire blame for the accident?

Dizzyblabla

rick_fantastic wrote:

i dont really consider having a few cans or pints and then driving a moped really drink driving.

i wouldnt have more than 6 cans / pints and then drive my moped home

how is it not drink driving?? that's the most stupid thing I've ever heard in my life!! What, because you're in a smaller vehicle, you can't cause a serious accident?

well, take a look at the stats from here: http://www.irishpost.co.uk/news/story.asp?j=3703:

Car users made up the bulk of roads deaths in Ireland — up by 36 to stand at 208.

Pedestrians accounted for 70 while 11 cyclists and 50 bikers were killed.

that's 50 bikers...

I don't even drink if I have work the following morning, I drive to work at about 6am, if I've been out drinking the night before, chances are I would be drinking til about 2, and there's no way I'm sober, and I will never chance it.
How many people have died on our roads already this year? We are only a week into 2006 and I've heard of numerous already.

I hate the attitude of "I'll be fine" or "It'll never happen to me" - and thinking that you can have 6 pints and still drive, be it a moped or a car, is the most stupid thing I've ever heard, even for people to think that they are ok after 2 and 3 pints, they're not, and it's been proven on more than one occassion.

arac

The max I would allow myself is one bottle of beer or 1/2 a glass of wine, always have plenty of water too with that..If I had anymore than that I wouldn't drive...That said, I drank a bottle of wine last night watching a dvd and when I got up for work this morn I realised half way up the road to Cork that I should not really be driving..I am not ashamed to admit that..but I couldn't just stop as still had to go to work..I drank plenty of water before I went to bed etc but was still dodgy this morn..

JohnCleary

Heh, tbh id consider drink driving a 2 wheeled veichle *more* dangerous as it requires balance. I was at a party out the country one night, and we thought it would be great craic to drive our dirt-bikes in yer mans field (back garden). We were well pissed, it was great craic, but I think most of the fun was falling off/not being able to keep our balance...

God knows what could have happened if we were on the roads :eek:

If im going out with the intention of drinking, I leave the car in the driveway, simple as, no excuses. Once or twice I have found myself in a situation where I end up drinking a (singular) pint, but id always leave it about an hour before driving, and id always get a bag of chips or a burger before driving.

robinph

JohnCleary wrote:

Heh, tbh id consider drink driving a 2 wheeled veichle *more* dangerous as it requires balance.

Definately more dangerous, but as always on a two wheeled vehicle its the rider that will die whoever it is that is drunk, the car driver that hits them or the rider themselves.

Atrocity

I cycled home through the city very drunk. It didn't affect the cycling as much as the decision making, I was taking shortcuts down one-way streets and the like

ClareBear

I come from a fairly rural part of the country and there's a pub less than a mile from my house and everyone that drinks there drives home, I mean everyone. It drives me mad. What if one of these idiots crashes in to me or one of my family some night. And you just know that nothing will be done about it until someone actually does get hurt, typical.

JohnCleary

robinph wrote:

Definately more dangerous, but as always on a two wheeled vehicle its the rider that will die whoever it is that is drunk, the car driver that hits them or the rider themselves.

Yes, but there can be other consequences. 2 weeks ago in Galway a motorcyclist (drunk, was leaving a party - I know his for a fact) killed TWO teenagers, not sure if the motorcyclist was killed though. It was all over the news, you may have heard about it

Hagar

ClareBear wrote:

Iyou just know that nothing will be done about it until someone actually does get hurt, typical.

Not quite true. Nothing will be done until someone "important" is hurt. Joe Soap doesn't count.:mad:

ClareBear

Hagar wrote:

Not quite true. Nothing will be done until someone "important" is hurt. Joe Soap doesn't count.:mad:

True.

Litcagral

ClareBear wrote:

True.

I'm getting confused now. Does that mean that it is TRUE that it is UNTRUE that it is TRUE!!!!!

ClareBear

Litcagral wrote:

I'm getting confused now. Does that mean that it is TRUE that it is UNTRUE that it is TRUE!!!!!

Untrue

Oh better go back on topic before this gets locked :rolleyes:

It's true that nothing will be done about it until someone gets hurt but a big deal won't be made out of it unless someone important gets hurt.

me and the biz

nah i wouldnt even drink a drop and then drive... i would have thought at this stage most people would do the same

Sangre

I've drunk and cycled home once or twice.

dogg_r_69

Have done it before but don't anymore. Not worth losing my lience over

Sangre

dogg_r_69 wrote:

Have done it before but don't anymore. Not worth losing my lience over

Yeah...cause thats why you shouldn't drink and drive.

poker_face

Yea I used to do it a bit but only around town (galway) with lighted streets that i know like the back of my hand. After a while I cut it down to just the one or at most 2 pints, I guess I thought of the consequences of accidents a little. Since then I've realised that there's no point risking my license for a measly pint or two, so I've decided to quit it for good. I can't see myself ever drink driving again.