so to fully enjoy the live experience you have to pay 60 euro a year for live and at least 200 euro (being very optimistic there) a year for broadband.
Alnilam wrote: I'm 32 does that make me a silver gamer? :P But seriously kids, The SRP (suggested retail price) for x-box 360 games in Ireland is €65.00 inc vat. if you are paying more than that, don't, there is at least 1 online store shipping games to ireland for less than that (play.com) so why pay joe retail their €70-€80 for a game that you can have delivered to your home for less all you have to do is wait a few days! and if you preorder a game they ship it to be with you on the release date. If we as the buying public don't spend our money in retail stores they will have to bring there prices back in line or go out of business. It's not microsoft who are charging you the silly amount of cash it's the retailers I'm really tired of hearing about "rip-off" ireland, it's so easy to blame the retailers or the government or whoever rather than admitting that the reason it's so bloody expensive is that the irish public are willing to pay it. As for Value, Live adds so much to a game like PGR3 (I'd like to say COD2 here but the lag kills the game online for me:( ) The game could be completed on it's easiest level in a few hours and only the truly dedicated would go back to beat it again at the higher levels but with online racing you need to go back and beat it at the higher levels to get your skills to a level where you can compete with some dignity on line I'm still losing far to much for my liking and It's 3 weeks since the first time I competed all the trophies. Maybe peeps are forgetting the days of multiplayer games meaning you had to wait your turn to play! :P
Tank Top Fever! wrote: how old do you have to be to be an ageing gamer?
Vegeta wrote: The more I see of the 360 the happier I am I didn't buy one, might buy one in a year when there are good games and its cheaper, my house mate has one and it has not impressed me one bit. PGR3 has ok graphics for a fifth generation console but not much else, it plays well but so do other driving games on older consoles like forza and gran turismo series He argues that to get the same level of gaming anywhere else you need to buy a PC worth around 1500 euro, well fair argument but an xbox 360 needs a hdtv or computer monitor (it looks pretty average otherwise) with VGA cable so that hikes the price up a nice chunk plus a PC of that price can do many other things that a 360 cant. Also can someone please tell me why the games are so expensive, I know they sell the consoles at a loss to make money on the games but is the result of this coughing up 70 euro a pop for the games? There is the argument that they are "next gen" so therefor cost more to develop, I say how come games like Half Life 2 (which is a better game in terms or graphics, technical merit and game play than any FPS on the 360) cost less, it was years in development and was "next gen" in its own right on the PC. This leads to only one conclusion and that is profit, Microsoft are losing lots of money on the console and making loads of it back on the games. With the current quality of the games I don't think these prices are justified. Am I getting too old for this or is my rant a valid one??
