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More Drunken Fighting !?!?!.......

Heyes

Do you ever feel when you go out, that there is never a night where you dont see some bunch of people, most commonly lads fighting ? Chances are they are fighting over nothing of any importance..

I just think its scary the amount of fights there are going on around the streets of dublin, i kinda though after the "Anabell murder" that it would ease down a bit, which i think to some exstent it did a little, but its kicked off now again and is actually a lot worse.
Saturday nights have me seeing lads collpased in the middle of the road with glass all around them <-- on that occasion the guy in question had done absolutaly nothing wrong he was just walking along the street, it took ages for an ambulance to arrive. Also on a seperate occasion i noticed another guy, who was walking along the street covered in blood, he was stone called sober, and had been attacked by a bunch of drunken lads. I seem to be seeing this going on all the time !!!! :mad:

Just think this fighting really needs to stop before there is more and more accidents and deaths in the city...

what do u think ?

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Heyes wrote:

Do you ever feel when you go out, that there is never a night where you dont see some bunch of people, most commonly lads fighting ? Chances are they are fighting over nothing of any importance..

I just think its scary the amount of fights there are going on around the streets of dublin, i kinda though after the "Anabell murder" that it would ease down a bit, which i think to some exstent it did a little, but its kicked off now again and is actually a lot worse.
Saturday nights have me seeing lads collpased in the middle of the road with glass all around them <-- on that occasion the guy in question had done absolutaly nothing wrong he was just walking along the street, it took ages for an ambulance to arrive. Also on a seperate occasion i noticed another guy, who was walking along the street covered in blood, he was stone called sober, and had been attacked by a bunch of drunken lads. I seem to be seeing this going on all the time !!!! :mad:

Just think this fighting really needs to stop before there is more and more accidents and deaths in the city...

what do u think ?

Where the feck have you been drinking?? :eek:

I drink in town at least once a week and i can safely say I havn't seen a single fight in over a year! I've been to places like club m, barcode, anabells aswell as 92...a broad range of "clientel" ... nothing!

I get the nightlink whenever im out too....I've seen plenty of arguments between lads..i've seen gobsheens thrown out of places and giving bouncers stick..but it's been a long time since i've seen a full on fisty-cuffs brawl!!

Heyes

DubGuy wrote:

Where the feck have you been drinking?? :eek:

I drink in town at least once a week and i can safely say I havn't seen a single fight in over a year! I've been to places like club m, barcode, anabells aswell as 92...a broad range of "clientel" ... nothing!

I get the nightlink whenever im out too....I've seen plenty of arguments between lads..i've seen gobsheens thrown out of places and giving bouncers stick..but it's been a long time since i've seen a full on fisty-cuffs brawl!!

Do you people actually go out in Dublin ??? :rolleyes: , seems to be loads of phases where there is fights going on, and its predominantly around o connell bridge area. well thats where i see it happening.. :rolleyes:

Was walking down Grafton Street around 11:30pm two weeks ago, and saw one guy having the sh1te kicked out of him by three or four other guys.
That was the most recent fight I've seen in Dublin.
I'm sick of seeing people kicking the sh1te out of each other on our streets, its disgusting and makes us(the Irish) look absolutely awful.

I know it happens in other countries, but we the Irish are particularly bad.
Went to Crete in August 2004 and my god, the way the Irish behaved over there was disgraceful. Huge amounts of fights every night, people robbing each other, throwing up on the streets, abusing staff of hotels/restaurants/pubs/clubs etc. That said, nearly everyone was between 17 and 19 and absolutely p1ssed but thats not really an excuse now is it?

In Dublin, I suppose its where you go and what kind of people are there.
The city center isn't a great place to be at 2:30/3:00am when everyone is thrown out of the clubs drunk onto the streets together to fight over taxi's/buses.

the_menace

rb_ie wrote:

I know it happens in other countries, but we the Irish are particularly bad.

That's absolute rubbish. The streets of the many UK cities are just as, if not more violent, as are the streets of Amsterdam, Paris, Barcelona, Rome, Prague, etc. The list goes on.

If you want to know what the real problem with 'we Irish' it's the fact that all we seem capable of doing is getting wound up by idiotic hysterical media reporting and sitting on message boards bitching and moaning how bad we (see everyone else in Ireland except me) are.

:rolleyes:

Tusky

Heyes wrote:

walk around anywhere in dublin on a saturday night and you ll see a fight. yes club m is a dive, but walking even around where the night links are, and all around there, and your guaranteed to see a fight

Did you misread by post ? Im in town ever weekend until all hours and I rarely see a fight. Depends where you go.

the_menace wrote:

That's absolute rubbish. The streets of the many UK cities are just as, if not more violent, as are the streets of Amsterdam, Paris, Barcelona, Rome, Prague, etc. The list goes on.

If you want to know what the real problem with 'we Irish' it's the fact that all we seem capable of doing is getting wound up by idiotic hysterical media reporting and sitting on message boards bitching and moaning how bad we (see everyone else in Ireland except me) are.

:rolleyes:

I've been in quite a few cities in Europe, and its been on the very rare occasion that I've seen the locals knocking the sh1te out of each other.

Oh and I forgot the UK, of course they're worse than us...just look at them.

the_menace

rb_ie wrote:

I've been in quite a few cities in Europe, and its been on the very rare occasion that I've seen the locals knocking the sh1te out of each other.

Ah stop will you. It's on a very rare occasion that you see it in Dublin too. I've lived in Liverpool, London, Rome, Barcelona and Amsterdam and every one of those places is considerably more violent than Dublin. Any other city I've visited seems no more or less violent than Dublin - and I've been to quite a few myself. Like I said, it's just silly media frenzy and over-zealous Irish suckers who mop it up. It's getting a bit boring and silly to be honest. We Irish seem to be a bit over critical of ourselves, and that's not always a bad thing, but let's try and get realistic for a while, eh? Dublin is a very safe city in comparison to many.

IvaBigWun

Heyes wrote:

and its predominantly around o connell bridge area. well thats where i see it happening.. :rolleyes:

Yup, id agree. Its one of the most dodgy areas of Dublin city centre at night. That, around Spermacs and the top end of O' Connell Street in general.

Zebra3

Alcohol-related vioelence in Britain is (slight exaggeration) a million times worse than here.

I've seen fights brake out in pubs and riot police being called in a 1pm. And they weren't football-related. Just ordinary gob****es.

I work with a lot of people from England who have moved over here because they think their hometown has turned into a warzone at weekends.

One bloke I work with who goes home at weekends plans to move to Australia in the near future cos he said there was no way he'd let his kid grow up "in that shythole". He told me there was some girl slash across the face in their local school! :eek:

Dave!

I'm gonna have to agree that it's being blown out of proportion greatly by the media... I've only been going into town at night regularly for nearly a year, but I haven't seen any fights at all to be honest. There was a bloke looking to start a fight in Bob's before, but he was actually there with us! He was a friend of a friend of a friend, and he was promptly chucked out so it was grand, but that's all I've seen in town.

I generally feel quite safe when I'm walking around at night, mainly because there's loads of people there. Maybe if the streets were empty it'd be a bit more unnerving.

I feel safer walking through town at night than through my own area, lol!

Oh well...

Wacker

In my whole time going to town drinking (about six years now), I've seen two fights. Two! An neither were bad; both times it was two drunk guys grappling, no punches were exchanged. Stop with the melodrama folks.

seamus

IvaBigWun wrote:

Then, with respect, you must be drinking in Foxrock and/or Backgammon clubs

Nope. Dublin City Centre. When I was younger I went to Fibbers pretty much every Saturday night for a year, and walked to the Nitelink down O'Connell Street at 3am, and never saw much more than drunken scumbags shouting at eachother.
Though a lot of it is about where you go. Some clubs are just full of scumbags and expect fights. I don't go to what you would consider classy pubs, but at the first sign of trouble, bouncers come out of nowhere and lift the cause out of it.

In my years drinking in the City Centre, I've seen a good few vicious ones, but certain people and media would have you believe that no matter where you go on a weekend night out, you'll see blood, broken glass and broken chairs. Nothing could be further from the truth.

the_menace

Wacker wrote:

Stop with the melodrama folks.

I second that motion.

mickymg2003

In my experience the worst fighting seems to come from the no-alco teenage discos and not always drunken ones. The way it worked was if someone swung at you you ducked and kept walking and now im older and i see them leaving the
places the little basta**s just rip lumps out of each other for no reason. Forget alcohol, hormones is the problem!!!

Heyes

Tusky wrote:

Did you misread by post ? Im in town ever weekend until all hours and I rarely see a fight. Depends where you go.

No i didnt miss read your post :rolleyes: , i was just wondering if you were walking around with your eyes open or closed

Heyes

the_menace wrote:

I second that motion.

yes there is a lot of melodrama, and a lot of publicity in the media about it, but in fairness im not really going by the media on this one, im going by what i see with my own two eyes,

... about a few months ago it was a bit mad, there seemed to be a couple fights every saturday night and some of them were pretty bad, and nope before you ask im not walking along the back streets, or along sherriff street or something, this is bang in the middle of town where everyone else is going out,....

ronbyrne2005

dublin streets are relatively safe,even if your in a fight ,chances are you wont be badly injured, how many people have been killed on streets of dublin in last ten years? i can only think of the one at annabels so yes the media and individuals here are being melodramatic,i have been in town drinking hundreds of times over several years in college and have seen maybe ten to twenty fights,none of which have been really bad.

RuggieBear

Dublin is safe compared to other places i've lived

Leicester is like a ****ing war zone every fri/sat night. The amount of police out is unbelievable....even worse whenever there is a home football match. I can't get across how violent Leicester is...

Sydney, OZ has much more violence than dublin. Got started on a few time there. The whole place seems to suffer from excessive testosterone Ultra agressive Alpha male sydrome

Boston, well tbh, the only violence i ever saw was irish ****wits outside irish bars.

Shrimp

Dublin is safe, i was in munich and it's a crazy dodgy place at night, esspecailly near the central train station, than again i think in general train stations are dodgy places to be at night. But it was very dodgy.

I was in london too, no quite as dodgy, but it's like dublin, but a heck of a lot bigger.

In my opinion, i feel save in dublin, as long as u've got ur wits about you.

Idbatterim

Dublin as far as im concerned is a very safe place, and as has been said the media blow it all out of proportion, i have been away to many european cities, and saw things i never did in dublin. i have never been started on or attacked here and i have been going out into town for about 4 years now fairly regularly. Compared to other places i feel very safe here, the vast majority of people are very civilised...

Ajnag

The first rule of fight club is: STFU!! N008! :v:

Kernel

According to this EU report:

europa.eu.int/comm/justice_home/eucpn/docs/brussels_10032003.ppt

We have a very low violent crime rate, compared to other EU states (the report is 5 years old however). Interestingly, many Irish people still do not feel safe walking the streets, and the vast majority believe young offenders would be more disinclined to commit crime if sentences were tougher.

Reports like this, of course rely solely on reported crime, and how many assaults or fights do you see getting reported to the Gardai? Once a case is brought before the courts, the judiciary often lets down the people/victims by giving a suspended or overly lenient sentence. Or, of course, the prison services let down the people by having no cells available, or treating criminals too well - as well as providing either no compulsory drug rehabilitation, or in many cases turning a blind eye to drug abuse within the prison.

It's a complex social problem, involving the media, the citizenry, Gardai, Judicial System, Prison Services and of course, the vintners association.

ionapaul

I've lived in Dublin for almost two years and, other than occasion nights out in Temple Bar, go out pretty exclusively in pubs / clubs in a triangular area between the corner of George's / Dame Street, Howl at the Moon (Mount St I think?) and Rody Bolands in lovely Rathmines (1 minute walk from my apt) - have never seen a proper fight within this triangle. It must be where and when you go that determines likelihood of trouble, than just being out in Dublin at night. Anyone ever seen a fight inside / outside the Village or Flannerys?

connundrum

Having worked as a doorman in this fine city for +/- a year I've been rotated around most major city centre venues, be it in TempleBar, Harcourt St or one unmissable dive on O'Connell St. So I'd be facing the public on the streets and in the venues and then most nights I'd wander home on foot cos chances of gettin a taxi are slim as fook..

I can honestly say that in that year there have been less than 5 incidents which were 'out of control'. And by that I mean it took more than 2 bouncers to sort it out. Behaviour is generally decent, apart from at major event weekends (ie U2, All Ireland finals etc) And like I said I walked home 90% of the time and never came across any trouble.. maybe I was just lucky, but that was what I experienced anyway.

madrab

yep i think people are making way too much of this, been going out in town for years & i havent seen a fight in ages, well the occasional squable when bouncers kick someone out, but the last time i saw a major bust up was in gibneys in malahide several years ago when there were tables, chairs & glasses being thrown around, it was actually quite impressive to watch

IvaBigWun

Kernel wrote:

According to this EU report:

europa.eu.int/comm/justice_home/eucpn/docs/brussels_10032003.ppt

We have a very low violent crime rate, compared to other EU states (the report is 5 years old however)

Id be interested in reading a new one of those when it comes out. City Centre Dublin 5 years ago was like Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory compared to how bad its got now.

Kernel

IvaBigWun wrote:

Id be interested in reading a new one of those when it comes out. City Centre Dublin 5 years ago was like Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory compared to how bad its got now.

Yeah, but the Oompa Loompas are still knocking about!

IvaBigWun

Kernel wrote:

Yeah, but the Oompa Loompas are still knocking about!

lol!

Its not as bad since the D4 "girlies" discovered Johnsonn's Holiday Skin

Ruu_Old

Havent lived in Duberlin, but yeah it is all blown out of proportion and depends on where you go i suppose. Lived in Liverpool and rarely saw much going on around town, most of it would be some feckers (with all the bling and fancy clothes on) coming up and asking for money. Just usually told them to feck off and they'd leave you alone, also quite a few people (who said they just got out of jail) and wanted money for a taxi home.
Lived in London and the place where my sister lives, Essex theres a heap of Irish people there, always fighting and causing trouble. As usual they cant handle their drink!
I live in a college town in Illinois now and its mostly drunken students but they get plenty drunk but no fights, interesting.

toffeapple

personally i like a good rumble now and then..as long as the other person is up fo it and theres no innocent by standers whats the problem??? so long as you dont go standing on there head or whatever....its a laugh