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Ashamed to be Irish!

Scruff101

Today is St. Patricks Day...a day which is supposedly meant to be used as a means of celebrating our nationality! After my experiences today I think 'St. Patricks Day' is an outdated concept that should be done away with! All it is is an excuse for people (mostly underage) to get well and truly off their faces and ruin the day for everyone else!

Walking up Grafton St. today I felt like i was in some different city or a parallel universe, almost everyone was drunk, people were drinking out of cans or bottles, people were either falling around the place or being held up by their friends and others were trying to pick fights with passers-by! Meanwhile the Guards stood by just waiting for something to happen...which it did a number of times! In the space of 3 hours I saw an ambulance on Grafton St. 4 times and I saw people being handcuffed by the Guards 5 or 6 times!
Myself and my friend decided to see if Temple Bar was as bad as Grafton St! We were Just crossing Dame St. over to the Bank of Ireland when we saw a group of 5 girls (no more than 17 years of age) getting into a fight with 2 other girls.....several men stood by cheering and another man was recording the whole thiing on his camera!! One of the girls was being kicked and when her friend tried to help her she was turned on by the group of 5 girls, punched in the face and thrown against the gates of the bank!
Eventually the 2 girls got away! At this stage we had gotten across the street(the lights had been red) and we were walking behind the 2 girls towards the Temple Bar area! Myself and my friend realised that neither of them were Irish! We stopped them to ask if they were ok,one of them was crying her eyes out and the other was in complete shock! They had been set upon by the 5 for NO reason! One of the thugs stuck a sticker on one of the girls backs and she took it off & threw it on the ground, when the group saw her throwing the sticker away they started to hit her!! This was the ONLY reason...the girls had just been walking along looking for somewhere to go for food!! We brought them into the toilets in the Bank bar to get them some ice for their badly beaten faces and to calm them down a bit! The 2 girls were Canadians in Ireland for the week specially for St. Patricks week! These girls will not be back! Im sure our attempts at telling them that this is not the norm fell on deaf ears! They are here until Monday and will not be back into town...they are going to stay around Clontarf (where their B&B is) for the next few days! We stayed with the girls for around an hour and got a taxi for them!

Today I have to say I am ashamed to be Irish...if this is what celebrating our Irishness is all about I give up! A Thousand Welcomes....yeah right!! The Fighting Irish now has a whole new meaning for me!

Rant over!

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Tar.Aldarion

ah why go to dublin at least in galway or some where there is barely any of the knacks and ya can have fun! there was no trouble that i saw apart from like 10 knackers that tried to take my friends hat.there were too many underage drunk girls wearing feck all though.

LegacyUser

i feel real sorry for those canadian girls, unfortunatly they're just another statistic on paddy's day.

why didn't you call the cops? this all has to be caught on cc tv, especially around central bank.

i know the guards are stretched to their limit, but it really anoyes me when little fúckers get away with 5hit like this, especially when its unprovoked.

i hope they die screaming.

irish teens and those in their early 20's are mostly to blame.

yes i got pissed on paddy's with my mates at that age, but i didn't fall around in public at 3oclock, puking and abusing people walking by.

seems our young generation has turned into a bunch of classless fúcks.

pat yourselves on the backs, you know who you are.

LegacyUser

except for the stabbing of course

http://www.rte.ie/news/2005/0318/stabbing.html

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

ah why go to dublin at least in galway or some where there is barely any of the knacks and ya can have fun! there was no trouble that i saw apart from like 10 knackers that tried to take my friends hat.there were too many underage drunk girls wearing feck all though.

Tar.Aldarion

i dont really know the story there but if ya hang out with your friends there wouldnt be that trouble i guess....for all ya know that 17 yr old started it.
but anyway if a guy was stabbed in galway and thats all that happened its a little better than an average day in dublin.

LegacyUser

how can you compare galway to dublin!!??

there's more pubs on dame street than galway city!

also, its not just dublin folk that live in dublin ye know.

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

i dont really know the story there but if ya hang out with your friends there wouldnt be that trouble i guess....for all ya know that 17 yr old started it.
but anyway if a guy was stabbed in galway and thats all that happened its a little better than an average day in dublin.

pat kenny

Out of interest why is St.Paddy's day are national holiday.
Usually an independance day or something is the national holliday.
When was Paddys day picked as the national holiday and by whom I asume it is a relativly recent thing ie. 100 years

Tar.Aldarion

i am refering to my original case of why would any sane person go to the centre of dublin on paddys day when they can go somewhere with less knacks(you go to the centre of dublin and complain you saw violence?what you expect).i am not saying galway=dublin or anything.why does it matter how many pubs there are? are you saying that 10s of thousands of drunk galway ppl are not a threat if they wanted to be? i just meant that there are a lot more bastards in dub,not that every1 is of course,just a high knack population.

"also, its not just dublin folk that live in dublin ye know." what are you talkin bout when did i say that.of course thats true.its just that a lot of ppl are from there and some of those are not so nice

simu

pat kenny wrote:

Out of interest why is St.Paddy's day are national holiday.
Usually an independance day or something is the national holliday.
When was Paddys day picked as the national holiday and by whom I asume it is a relativly recent thing ie. 100 years

Picking a more political date would probably be controversial in Ireland although it would make more sense.

Tar.Aldarion

pat kenny wrote:

Out of interest why is St.Paddy's day are national holiday.
Usually an independance day or something is the national holliday.
When was Paddys day picked as the national holiday and by whom I asume it is a relativly recent thing ie. 100 years

its just cos thats wen we became christian and what not?(the new ireland) or maybe cos we love having no more snakes

LegacyUser

The reality of the underage drinking culture in Ireland is never more apparent then on St Patricks Day. The Lord Mayor was absolutely right to try and get the off-licences to stay shut until 6pm. I went into the city for a few pints at 5pm and the top of Grafton St/Stephens Green corner was a f-ing zoo. There were plenty of Gardai there, and I didnt see and handbags, but the amount of underage teenagers out of their heads on Drink and whatever else was sick.

It's about time the bullshi*ters out there stopped talking about binge-drinking etc. and realise that the problem is with the f-ing parents. If I came home having drank at all when I was under-18 I would have been in the ****! These "Celtic-Tiger Cubs" have no f-ing respect for authority, fellow citizens and visitors to this land, and most of all the Gardai. And who's to blame!! The parents of these yobbos that let their kids run riot in the city centre on March 17 (and probably every Fri & Sat as well!). My old dear told me today that in my old secondary school in Dublin 12 had over 200 students absent today out of 700. Why the fu*k werent they in school? Cause they're probably hung-over from the over-exuberence of yesterday.

Unfortunately the incident involving the Canadian girls is the a fact, but I'd still say that the majority of people had a great day yesterday, and I'm certainly proud to be Irish! And I had a good few pints and all, and I'm still working today!!

Tennis

bruachain wrote:

Unfortunately the incident involving the Canadian girls is the a fact, but I'd still say that the majority of people had a great day yesterday, and I'm certainly proud to be Irish! And I had a good few pints and all, and I'm still working today!!

I feel very sorry for those Canadians but I totally agree, we must never allow the actions of a minority to spoil the enjoyment of the majority.

humanji

pat kenny wrote:

Out of interest why is St.Paddy's day are national holiday.
Usually an independance day or something is the national holliday.
When was Paddys day picked as the national holiday and by whom I asume it is a relativly recent thing ie. 100 years

It's because St. Patrick is the patron saint of Ireland. Most countries have a day off on their patron saint days (persumably they thought we'd go to church instead of out on the rip and causing trouble!)

Fudger

From breakingnews.ie:

"Figures compiled today by gardai show that officers made 407 arrests in Dublin on St Patrick’s Day.

Of these, 250 were for public order offences while the remainder related to other incidents like vandalism, drink-driving and domestic violence."

Happy St Paddys day !!!!!!!!!!

Deadwing

Its always best to avoid the city centre on paddys day, i learned that a good few years ago. Town is always full of drunken morons, pissing all over the streets, puking, fighting for no reason etc etc. I just went for a walk with my sister, had a couple of bottles of beer at home and avoided the madness. Judging by the way the knackers carry on in town on paddys day i think it should be renamed from 'st. patricks day' to 'the last days of sodom & gomorrah'. Its a cringe inducing day, and whats worse is its a day we should all be celebrating together and enjoying, not beating the piss out of each other for 'a deaaadly buzz' & drinking til you choke on your own liver :rolleyes: I feel so sorry for those canadian girls, the friendly irish..my bollocks :rolleyes:

WizZard

tbh, I think it has a alot to do with the parents, as bruachain said. If I came home drunk during the day when I was 16-17 I would have been belted around the house.
It is a cliche, but these kids don't have any respect for anyone, least of all themselves.
I hope those girls are ok, but that's Ireland spoiled for them, and for whoever they tell about this situation.

MisterAnarchy

The Irish loved the world over.
Everything in this country revolves around drink.
Its a sad reflection on our society that the pub is the centrepiece of most peoples lives.
St Patricks day has been hijacked by Guinness and a bit of the black stuff.
Being drunk is an accepted part of our culture .
Its sad ,very sad.
I stayed in yesterday as I am sick of going out meeting people who get rat arsed drunk and make idiots of themselves and waste my time.
Why cant they just drink responsibly.

Pinapples

Drinking in Ireland is out of control, not just Paddys day, but any night. It's a bloody free for all :mad:

I have a Swiss friend who lived here for a year. She liked it well enough, but the main reason she left was because of the behavior of drinkers here, espessially towards women. I must admit, I feel ashamed, and it's really made me think about my own life and habits.

When we go out we get trashed, and we think that's OK. Most people here have absolutely no other social ageda apart from headin down the pub or into town to get locked. The worst thing is the example we're giving to our younger country men & women, they just do the same thing as soon as they can pronounce 'alcohol'. We seriously need to re-educate ourselves, and rediscover life outside the bottle.

I know I sound like a square, I'm not! I like a drink as much as the next guy, but I'm just getting a bit tired of seeing what goes on in Dublin at night.

sleepwalker

i went out on wednesday night got hammered spent all thursday happily in my house recovering watching dvds and eating chinese takeaways

when i ventured out to xtra vision the village where i lived seemed to be full of 13-15 year olds looking like they were all prepared to be impregnated that night while the blokes were swinging out of their bottles of coke and vodka and generally looking like nasty little bastards. also some drunk bloke roaring abuse at everybody and just generally looking for a fight and this was 4 in the afternoon. im fairly sure that if i had walked instead of driving i would have ended up being dragged into some sorta trouble

needless to say i couldnt be arsed with paddys day, my birthday is the day after so ill leave my celebrations for that. leave paddys day for the kids and the people who actually think its something to get all patriotic about

pickarooney

Happy Birthday sleepwalker.

Kernel

RuggieBear wrote:

have to admit i avoided the city centre as well....just didn't want my (english) girlfriend witnessing the drunkness, puking, violence and on street sex that i've seen down thru the years....

You were right not to bring her our Ruggie, sure she only would have gotten homesick.

Megatron

Kernel wrote:

You were right not to bring her our Ruggie, sure she only would have gotten homesick.

nice brush there ... retard

Scruff101

paperclip wrote:

i feel real sorry for those canadian girls, unfortunatly they're just another statistic on paddy's day.

why didn't you call the cops? this all has to be caught on cc tv, especially around central bank.

i know the guards are stretched to their limit, but it really anoyes me when little fúckers get away with 5hit like this, especially when its unprovoked.
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We stopped a couple of Guards on the street and the girls gave them details...but even the Guards told them there was little hope of finding these yobs! All the Canadian girls wanted to do was get out of town anyway, and I don't blame them!!
The worst thing was to see a grown man filming the whole thing and another group of men egging this group of girls on....I'm still raging about the whole incident (and the whole day!!!)

Hugh Hefner

Those of you mentioning the underage drinkers specifically are too bloody right. In class over the last week or so the convo. before the teacher comes in is something along the lines of: "Awww man I'm gonna get lashed out of it on Paddy's Day. Probably go to Wezz or somethin'." I just feel like turning around and telling them they're a bunch of freakin' tards. And I don't go to a knacker school. I go to Belvedere so the situation wasn't helped with the school having a winning rugby final the same day.

I guess the order of the day was something like:

1) Go to match.
2) Get drunk at match.
3) Somehow ramble to O'Connel St.
4) Stay out on the piss til late night.
5) Die of liver failure (if only).

I was in town yesterday but only until about 1:30 so I wasn't privilaged to see the mind numbing crap going on later. That said, it's a bad sign when I don't doubt anything said on this thread actually happened.

RuggieBear

Kernel wrote:

You were right not to bring her our Ruggie, sure she only would have gotten homesick.

boom boooom.....

Selket

I, for one, won't go near town on St. Patrick's Day anymore. I think it's awful. I go to Croke Park instead. Nothing says Irish quite like GAA.

I think young people have the wrong attitude these days. Do you hear the way little 10/11 year olds speak? Its shameful. Young people have no respect for anybody these days. I too believe that the parents are to blame. I understand that people want to raise their children to stand up for themselves but that doesn't give parents the right to raise brats. I think part of the problem is that children are trying to grow up to fast. Recently, at my former primary school, 2 "couples" were caught having full intercourse in the playground! They were only 11 years old. What the Hell is the country coming too? It is time to take a stand and give children back their childhood. Stop forcing them to become adults early. We are seeing the effects of this now. Yes, little john, you may think like an adult, voice your opinions and oh, you've had your first drink? Well behave responsibly then... Now we're seeing mini-me gangs ruling the streets, teenagers that think they own the streets, teenagers that feel hard done by for no reason at all, who feel they are justified in seeking retribution. These kids are the future of our country and that worries me.

Kernel

Megatron wrote:

nice brush there ... retard

Personal abuse. If you have nothing intelligent to say, then say nothing.

Wolf

At night its no where near as bad , but, I must admit the streets round St.Paddy's Day are absolutly terrible. Thing is it the rather large knacker element thats the problem if you ask me values these days from parents isn't the same children seem to be able to do what ever the hell they like. Bring back smaking in schools too dammit! :mad:

Tha Gopher

Sorry but all this sh1te really gets on my tits. The Irish drink, it is what we do. Some Irish act like violent idiots when theyre drunk, it is no reason to take action against those of us who can go out and get merry without punching strangers for a laugh. Spain, Italy etc do not have this tradition, and Im sick to my bollix of foreigners complaining about our drink cullture. If you dont like it, stay the fcuk in your homeland. Personally, i didn see an ounce of trouble last night. No arrests, no ambulances picking up people, no fights. Ive been drinking proper since I was 16 (as in going out to pubs/nightclubs regularly)every weekend, and in that time I think i could probably count on my fingers the amount of arrests and ambulance pick ups I witnessed. Much of it is just media hype

As for the underage drinking, is there really anything wrong with a few kids of 16 having a few cans as long as they dont interfere with anyone else? Dont tell me you never drank when you were a kid

Debyaka

HELL YEA!!
Good post mate!! I agree completely, if you dont like our boozing culture, get outta here!!

I was in liverpool 2 years ago for the matthew street festival and it was nothing short of a disgrace,
The streets stank of piss and vomit for the whole time we were there and there was a fight in every pub i was in, and it wasnt just scousers fighting it was all the muppets from london and manchester..

The second time i was in the uk i got assaulted for "being a paddy" I didnt even look at the blokes once and three of them jumped me and put me in hospital!!

I was around dublin last night and yea i seena few bouts of pushing and shoving, i also saw people drunk, but nothing too bad....

Hugh Hefner

Tha Gopher wrote:

As for the underage drinking, is there really anything wrong with a few kids of 16 having a few cans as long as they dont interfere with anyone else? Dont tell me you never drank when you were a kid

I think the point is that they do interfere with others, as shown in the original post.

I've never drank.