The richest people in know live like pawpers and vice versa. It's the guys with feck all have all the talk of how much money they have and drive all the fancy gear.
Maybe alot depends on how much you value yourself. If i dont bank 1k per cow after tax, then in my opinion there is not enough money from the job.
your a gas man …just leave it at that 👍if your happy working those hours regularly more power to you far more to life …your great at making assumptions on others
Maby that was harsh on saying where your going wrong but like you I worked another job for over 10 years in another life as well as working alongside my dad ….best thing I ever did ..one of best things was lworking an 8 hour day …what you get if you work overtime ,.importance of holidays and structure …granted farming bit different but imo…zero need to be working 12/14 plus hour days as norm …off to mow silage now with the young lad…so have yourself a good day 👍👍
I worked at 9-5 in Dublin for 3 months and hated it. Felt like school.
Started working 12 hour shifts 3 days a week and never looked back. 3 days work a week, 3 days farming and one day drinking. All 12 to 14 hour days. Plenty breaks and plenty tea. It's not all running around like a fecking eejit. I'm not a man to sit around watching love island.
Between my own houses and my father’s I’m looking after 10 sets of tenants for the last few years. We’ve definitely been fortunate with the tenants but I don’t let any sort of trämpš into any of the houses either. 70% of the tenants are Indian and the rest are locals, all very quiet people. I hear what you’re saying about the hassle that can come with houses but I’ve never had to set my alarm for 4am over the houses 🤣
The way things are going now — I think if someone could buy decent land near to them at €12K/acre it’s as good of an investment as you could make. There’s a semi-d for sale in Listowel for €450,000 now. I remember back in 2007 at the height of the boom a fully detached house in town was for sale for €500,000 and everyone thought it was crazy. There won’t be a crash in house prices but I think there’s more bang for your buck to be got with land now. Especially if someone has enough houses already
If you were to pack in the cows and go back out into the workplace would you be getting 130K after tax in wages?
If i worked the same hours and had the same capital invested i would earn multiples of that most likely.
Farming is never about the money for me. People can't seem to understand that.
Thats where you went wrong, only one day drinking!! I was a whore for drink in my 20s. Sometimes i regret it but id great craic and was generally able to function and get work done aswell. Dont even take a drink at home now, I dont miss it because id die for a couple of days after a few pints now.
I work irregular hours now. Lads might drive by at 8 tonight and see me still in the yard and wonder but iv kids collected dinners made and homework done. Football at 6 where im a mentor ( standing on the sideline shouting) which i think is more important than rushing around to be finished
I did fair damage to my liver in my 20's. Often a few hours in bed and drive to work. It's an essential part of growing up and you only get one chance at your twenties. Great times but you cant live like that in your 40's. Travelled alot too. Hectic times. Could never sit around on a sun holiday. Did mostly adventure travel. All hard going, drinking every day and often up at dawn to move on again.. cant understand people on sun loungers reading books. Life is too short.
I have had a good few comments made lately about working too hard but I maintain I ve stayed working the same but everyone else has slowed down.when I was young doing work 7 days a week and evenings was the norm but that's all gone now.work doesn't bother me, I just want to get things done
Its whatever suits. I do a shot of work off farm as well. This week and last I'm busy with that so 4.45 until 9.30 is kinda the norm. Next week 5.30 to 7.30 probably to catch up on stuff on farm. Then it might settle but Ill still arise at 5.30 and try to have all done by 5.30-6 in the evening. It is what it is. Quick calculations here with a friend (also dairying) left me at a 7c/l margin all in this year. Not big money when you have under half a million litres but add calves, culls and a small bit of biss and it stacks up against most jobs, particularly when you're working from home.
Are you in a company. Hard to bank 1k a cow and pay the high rate of tax
Not Yet. Most profits have been going back in for me. My point is that the day that I can consistently do that then I will consider myself to be paid fairly for the work and capital involved. I won't be going around thinking I'm flying it if I have 50k left in my current account at Xmas.
I'd say you are right. An older man i know said that years ago neighbours and friends would always call to his farm after work and give a hand with anything. As much for the craic and friendship as anything. Plumbers, electricians, whoever. Call in after work and give a hand at silage, hay, building work some craic in the workshop or something. Now he see's nobody he said. It's all lounge wear now and binging Netflix i guess. Netflix and chill and takeaway and fat jabs.
TThe Fat jabs are everywhere it seems
Nevermind the lack of thought about what's going on in front of them with them f##kin phones.sucking the drive out of people
I dunno J, a 12 hour day would be a short day here on probably 360 of the 365 days in the year, we’d probably be averaging around 16 hour days at this time of year.
I wouldn’t class a 12 hour day as being over worked. I’d be wondering what do lads need all that free time for or what would ya be doing!? I’m not on social media so I wouldn’t be looking at that, I’m too old for playing sports and I’ve no interest in tv outside of sport. I’d crack up if you told me I could only do 12 hours a day.
One thing that's changed is that years ago lads were happy to leave the missus at home rearing the kids while they arsed about until the kids were in bed.
do u work 16hrs a day on Sundays as well??
I’m silage contracting so at this time of the year weather permitting we would be. Just in the door from baling now, I’ll get a bite to eat and head for the bed and we’ll be on the go for around half 6 in the morning again.
Thank god for hard working contractors. They’re putting in some effort around here these days for the first cuts. My man was fairly shaken from the whole thing last night. I'd nearly have pity on him. 🤣
First cuts. Shure it's second cuts lads should be at now.
Ya, that was the plan at the start of the year. Damage limitation around here now.delighted to finally get a chance to get it done.
shhhhh now with talk like that
This year shows why's its so important to have silage ready to cut in early may. You can be delayed a week and still have quality feed.
While the weather breaking the start of June has meant 1st cuts been done these days won't have feed values much above maintenance.
This calf is some beauty imo. Off Fr9881. I lifted her twice a day for 42 days during spring calving because she never stood after calving. It was all worthwhile.
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I was ready. Contractor wasn't able. It's after raining for 2 weeks. Places got wet. Some lads just cut it 5 days ago but put in alot of water and did damage to fields. Cow's will be dry here for at least 2 months. Getting as much quality as I can in bales.
Ahh shush now with yer aul pontificating
Every man to his own some lads dry off early and dont milk up till december so only need a little high quality silage people should remember it costs a fortune to make high quality silage compared to rough bulky stuff.
this spring proved most lads need a supply of top quality forage for spring at a minimum and also to cover summer droughts ….coarse low dmd silage will cost you more by having to supplement it with more meal. At a higher protein %
Lads that made the effort to make silage first half of may this year were also rewarded by having good bulk and high quality in second cuts been made now ….this is my first year in a while not growing maize as I put in wheat for wholecrop to break cycle ….seen lot of backwards maize crops atm but could catch up
