New Season, so time for a new thread...
See mod note 15/11/20 -
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115302954&postcount=842
Aye being the richest club in the league with resources most of the other clubs can only dream about does that to you!!
whooosh you missed the point.
Celtic are the richest club in the league if they were run properly and using their resources they would have won the league easy and done much better in Europe. Because there’s a regime at the club no longer fit for purpose we ended up with a title race and they had to drag MON out of retirement twice to save the title for us.
Celtic needs fundamental structural and personnel changes, winning the league again yesterday doesn’t change that.
Yes.
“I’m not pleading the fifth amendment, I don’t know. If there have been some Hearts players accosted then that’s just not right at all. But I genuinely didn’t see the scenes at the end.“I thought the game wasn’t over, so I’m trying to push some of our fans off the pitch again to play whatever’s left. The fourth official had said to me there was like a minute to go when we scored the goal. But with the best will in the world, they’re not going to get two goals in that time.“I didn’t see the incidents. Obviously, there’s a lot of commotion in the tunnel, so I don’t know. But if Hearts players have been accosted by some of our fans, that’s pretty serious.”
“I’m not pleading the fifth amendment, I don’t know. If there have been some Hearts players accosted then that’s just not right at all. But I genuinely didn’t see the scenes at the end.
“I thought the game wasn’t over, so I’m trying to push some of our fans off the pitch again to play whatever’s left. The fourth official had said to me there was like a minute to go when we scored the goal. But with the best will in the world, they’re not going to get two goals in that time.
“I didn’t see the incidents. Obviously, there’s a lot of commotion in the tunnel, so I don’t know. But if Hearts players have been accosted by some of our fans, that’s pretty serious.”
Game should surely be replayed if fans invaded the pitch before final whistle and prevented the end of the game being played. Would be only sportsmanlike if Celtic offered to do that, with proceeds going to charity. And a warning to fans not to do it again.
Let me preface this by saying this does not make it OK.
Does anyone honestly think that if you flip it around that it would be any different at the end?
For example, if it were the same teams but the match was at Tynecastle and Hearts won in the exact same manner. We are not going to have a pitch invasion?
For a recent comparative example look what happened at Rochdale v York City.
How often do league titles come down to the final game where the potential champions play each other?
We are already stripping enough emotion out of football with VAR (i know it injects some emotion in on the flipside).
Obviously I have not seen all the footage, I have seen footage of a fan approaching Hearts players and it looks like he is giving the fingers with both hands. Shankland appears to shoulder charge him in defence. The fan was being a dick and Shankland's response is fine for me.
The ref by all accounts was happy to blow it up given the situation. Again, let us say Hearts had a kick off after the 3rd Celtic goal and the ref blows up shortly after - are we not going to see a pitch invasion where the Hearts players are on the pitch in the same situation?
The ref blew the whistle therefore the game ended. Celtic were presented with the league trophy and the players celebrated. They will probably have a day off today and then in prep mode for the cup final at Hampden on Saturday
It is 100% certainty that there would be a pitch invasion at Tynecastle in the same circumstances. The media and others will laud it all up as part of celebrating the title win.
The York game had a pitch invasion but it was cleared
The pitch would have been cleared within 5 minutes. The ref decided to blow the whistle. There was a maximum of a minute left and there was a two goal difference between the teams. The ref made the call to blow the whistle. I suspect if there was only one goal between the teams it would have been restarted and the minute of time would have been played.
A practical decision was made. That ref had a good game actually given the scrutiny the officials were under. There was a shocking decision by the assistant referee to flag Maeda’s goal as offside. Because there was VAR a shocking mistake was averted. The standards in officiating in Scotland are generally poor but Don Robertson had a good game and it was his call to finish the game as there was 2 goals between the teams.
It was the ref that called it. Comments above that Celtic should offer a replay to be sportsmanlike are havin a laugh. 😆
Some cracking compilation videos doing the rounds, particulary like this one
Still no sign of any evidence of Hearts playing being assaulted.
Somehow I don't think any will surface.
There were no assaults, you have some people on here saying a Celtic fan running towards a Hearts player constitutes assault. What we do see is a Hearts player (looks like Kent) knocking the mobile phone out of hand of a Celtic fan who is filming him and stamping on it twice, the Celtic fan then pushes the Hearts player to retrieve his phone.
Day 8 of the collective meltdown in Scotland since the Motherwell game at Fir Park - Celtic issue their next statement
The meltdown makes an already incredible end to the season so much sweeter.
Double would round things off nicely now.
It lools like it will be the last Celtic game for Maeda as he will be allowed to leave in the summer. No sign of Hatate today which is a shame.
Maeda looks to have written the script so far! Great goal to put Celtic ahead.
Typical of the season so far Celtic seem to be their own toughest opponent, and earlier defensive mix-up saw Scales having to clear off the line.
I am off to watch the Championship playoff now…
Totally controlled the first half, Dunfirmline aren't very good and their keeper looks very weak.
Double winners after a disaster start to the season. What a job MON has done.
Nice moment between Lennon and MON at the end
Unreal to think that despite the board doing their best to sabotage the season we still win a double and very close to winning a treble
I think MON gets another year. Said he's meeting the 'owner' in a few days and definitely isn't ruling out going again next year.
It's probably the best option we have at the minute, especially if there's an rebuild across all areas of the footballing side of the club.
You think Robbie Keane isn't in the running at all?
If it wasn't for his time in Israel, he'd be a definite. I can't see the board or rather Desmond giving him the job when it's obvious there will be a massively negative reaction to it.
But who knows, Desmond has shown this season he doesn't care what the fans think.
Martin O'Neill has to be given the job for as long as he wants it....maybe a year is enough for him...he will know whats right...
Do not give Robbie Keane the job...it will be a disaster....he ruined himself going to Israel and there will be a fan backlash....
Keep the club unified and we are unstoppable - maybe get a crack at Europe again Martin like 2003!
Kasper Schmeichel retires due to that shoulder injury.
Hope he hasn't done permanent life long damage to it.
Rumor is MON will be announced tomorrow. Probably the best at this point but shouldn't be ignored that Nancy was gone in Jan and board had 5 months to find a replacement.
MON has been incredible and offers the best chance of us getting through the CL playoff but it will be just kicking the can down the road for a season.
We need a new CEO with a plan for the club. I'd add tha Desmond needs to go but that not going to happen
Its been by others but it bears repeating most of the Celtic board both executive and non, including dictator Desmond have been in situ for over a decade and some including dictator Desmond more than 20 years. Tom Allsion was in place for 24 years, dictator Desmond has been a NED for 31 years now. Brian Wilson 21 years, Chris McKay 10 years. Michael Nicholson at 7 years is under that 9 year mark but I think its fair to say his monumental incompetence should have seen him gone a long time ago never mind the 9 year marker. What is know as the gold standard for directors is a maximin of 9 years. The reason for this is because long term incumbents become stale, they become resistant to change. The culture ossifies. Power becomes entrenched and the directors become lapdogs saying yes to the entrenched dictators. In short the directors cease to be independent. To say the above paragraph describes everything pretty much that is wrong at Celtic is an understatement to put it mildly. Now dictator Desmond is a business man who holds and has held other board positions at other companies. He knows full well the standards for directors and yet when it comes to Celtic he just ignores them and now in his hubris that he knows best he has been engaged in a policy of retribution and scorched earth against some within Celtic. His tirade on the clubs own web site against Brendan Rodgers has done severe reputational damage to Celtic within the professional football world to the extent that no reputable and established elite level manager will touch Celtic at the moment. The scorched earth policy certainly applies to sections of our supporter base who he has attacked and recently just stabbed in the back, post the end of the season. This sabotage of the club allied to his long standing incompetence is costing the club massively both financially off the field in terms of income lost that was very attainable and on the field in terms of the quality level of the playing squad. Dictator Desmond is a clear and present danger to the immediate and long term future of Celtic that is as clear as day. His refusal to step down and now his vindictive and spiteful actions as well as his massive incompetence show that contrary to his claims that he is a Celtic supporter he is nothing of the sort. If he was he would have sold up and passed the baton to some one else to carry. Instead he is continuing to and actively sabotaging our club and when the day does come that he sells up he will be justly reviled and vilified by the vast majority of our support for the parasite he is.
Continued speculation that Desmond wants Keane as manager, is this just the old man giving another 'fcuk you' to some of the fans…. seems like it.
Call me cynical but:
A popular manager like MON - all the fans anger directed to board.
A manager already on backfoor with fans... perfect lightning rod for fans anger.
but the fans can already see thru the potential keane appt, to the board. Hiring him wont excuse them (desmond et al) from criticism, i dont think
