A 3 or Y?
Probably the three I'd say.
I've the new standard RWD about 10 weeks and I love it. Low mileage driving having done just 1500km but I find the drive excellent. I'm coming from a 2015 diesel but the comfort, tech, drive, etc. is on another level. And even in the slowest of the Model 3, the acceleration is pretty great.
I drive mostly R and N roads and efficiency is great IMO, about 13kWh/100km giving me a realistic range of 450km+
Love the clean, minimalistic design. I've mentioned before that I'd like a slight tilt on the screen towards the driver, but that's a very small gripe. Using the screen for everything is easy to get used to.
It's my first EV but the app is also very good in my opinion.
Did someone not say it's self assessment earlier with Tesla data. Are the EPA now inspecting these and doing all the testing ?
Where's the shovel for him ?
The part where you didn't take the other poster to task ? Maybe ?
He stated that he presumed that the manufacture has to submit the car to the EPA for testing.
He also stated the company can submit the data for EPA review.
Both of these statements are correct. There’s 2 options for manufacturers in this process.
The EPA then released the figures. No difference here to any car that’s gone before it, petrol, diesel or electric.
What are you talking about,yet again you are on some quest to prove people wrong with wrong information,first it was the car now it's the epa test.
So exactly what I said , what is Cyrus on about ? I went off what he said (the other poster not Cyrus). The manufacturer self certified sends in their data.
I'm yet to be amazed on how far you'll with pretending black is white when none of you can agree on what the data says and who submits it. And that includes you Cyrus .
Who tested it. - you've no idea.
How did they test it - again no idea.
Did listermint say something? Yes. Let's get him !
I think you need to stop digging……
Not digging. Just curious how this was tested to get this efficieny outcome.
Does no one actually find this interesting on the EV forum ? That's a genuine question none of you are interested in information more interest in a witch hunt whenever I question anything.
This isn't a forum it's a circus.
Like il give you one example why it's curious. Robot taxi supposedly has a limited top speed,.fixed. how it's it being tested exactly like a M3 and what would it be?
Suggest that it's tested to its tasks, what if for. Small area low speeds.
If you’re really curious, you’d look at the EPA test cycle and understand how they are tested. It’s the same for every car in the US. We have ELPT, they have EPA. Simples. No witch hunt, just correction of facts or posts or paranoid thoughts.
It can't be though it has software limits on speed. So you tell me.
Do you have any evidence to suggest that the figures are falsified? That is what you are implying.
Who said falsified? Lads cmon jesus. No one said that read my posts
This is getting ridiculously embarrassing for all of you.
I asked if they're tested to task. Their specific task. It would make the most logical sense because that's what they're designed for. They're not like your cars and won't be used for that.
It seems to be the most logical explanation for the ultra low figures.
Seriously though.like enough of the witch hunt.
You implied it. Struggling to believe the reported figures.
Then saying it’s probably not a true figure. What is the opposite of true?
It’s probably a false figure
By also saying there is zero chance of Tesla getting whacked and making a direct correlation to dieselgate, you’re solidifying your implication that there is something false with the data.
No witch hunt here. But you’ve made yourself clear. You don’t think Tesla is being honest about the reported figures, based on EPA testing. Or are you now retracting that suggestion to amend it?
You have gotten so much wrong trying to correct you is a fools errand and then you double down on it, it's a joke and you are making shite of the thread,again. You didn't know what the cybercab was until it was pointed out for a start off.
Dig up…….chief..
The EPA cycle that determines the official range and consumption figures, maxes out at 60mph. Are you seriously suggesting that the cybercab max speed is less than that?
No official figure is known, but I would expect it to be 75mph at least
I wonder if someone somewhere could possibly alter a software limit to complete a standard suite of tests, maybe it's a far fetched notion and we should just speculate wildly instead.
That's not saying their falsified though. Apologies if it comes across that way.
I'm struggling to believe the figures are based of you guys saying theyre testing them like a normal car.
It doesn't seem likely.
And not one of you had provided any understanding or info as to how it was tested . Despite it's locational and software dictated limits you went on to attack me indicating it's tested like any other vehicle.
Sorry but you'd get more conversational discussion of the topic on Reddit than what your putting out here just attacking the poster rather than talking about something interesting.
Not one has posed any interesting counter points on the topic.
There is absolutely nothing and no reason to suggest the electric car (because that’s what it is) would be tested any differently than any other electric car for EPA results.
If you can point to any reason, or rule they EPA would require different testing based on the car only operating in a restricted (but still public) area(s), I’m happy to read about it. I find it hard to believe that any reasonable person would think otherwise.
It’s up to you to offer evidence if there is different treatment for a certain car, not us to prove that the cybercab follows the same rules as any other EV for EPA testing.
Online indicates yes , but as we know online can be inaccurate. I've no idea!
Would like to see what sort of testing and how.
Let's just chat about the car it's an interesting topic. How do they test it. What's involved . EV talk ! Il leave the snark at the door. ( You should follow)
Ah lads...
There’s nothing to counter. You can’t counter shite with more shite.
Thanks for your always consistent contribution.
it’s certainly no worse than the shite that’s gone before it.
Be nice if you talked about the subject a bit more. Can we do that ? Your still a mod which to be honest at this stage is remarkable.
No doubt you've hammered people before for attacking posters and not posts. It's getting relatively ridiculous at this point. Travelling across the forum to have a go. You should be mod stripped (forum regardless).
Report the posts then if you think they warrant it.
Don’t try back seat mod. And nobody has attacked you so stop playing the victim, yet again. They’ve attacked your post content. Which is laughable at this stage.
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