Is there a thread on boards for Scottish football or isn’t there any interest except for the old firm clubs. Quite like the look of Hibernian having watched their European games on BBC Scotland in the last couple of weeks!
where are you getting this from that VAR didn’t show him every angle? Has there been an episode of refwatch today. Are you talking about the angle from behind the goal?
If you agree that there is conclusive evidence that it was a penalty then we agree that the correct decision was made.
I think a lot of fans bar Celtic fans and a lot of the media were desperate for a Leicester City type moment in Scotland with Hearts. There is another game left and Hearts only need a draw. For me the fairytale would be Celtic under MON at the age of 74 still lifting the title despite a strange season with poor stewardship of the club under Desmond and a horrendous tenure under Wilfried Nancy in the middle of it. If it wasn’t for that Celtic would already be champions.
Still another game to go and still all to play for for Celtic and Hearts. It was the right call last night for the penalty at the end of the second half, a stonewall penalty at the end of the first half didn’t get awarded and seems to be completely ignored and forgotten.
Maeda backing in and not competing for the ball is not a penalty.
Take another look.
The narrative has moved from the ball did not touch his hand to Trusty pushed the guys arm up over his head… it is unreal the amount foaming at the mouth about that incident. There could have been three reasons to give a foul and hence the penalty
The clear foul on Maeda at the end of the first half is swept right under the carpet. As for McInnes and his comments about the penalty.. well that should result in a charge from the SFA and a touchline ban.
What are you talking about? We could see literally everything the VAR provided for the ref to view, in real time, as they viewed it. The viewer always can.
We can see that he was shown only that one angle from the main TV camera (or another from the same perspective) which was slowed down to a fairly jumpy footage.
Which showed the handball, the release of the footage from the pitchside camera and the photo still from the pitchside photographer today validates the decision. The people claiming this was the worst decision ever clearly do not watch football.
I'm not one of the people who claimed that. Nor do I think it was a stonewaller. If a penalty had originally been given for either a handball or an elbow, my reaction qouls have been 'meh…but I can see why it was given.' So, for me, it fell into the 'seen them given' for reasons I've outlined, and I'm not convinced VAR should be involved in those.
And I think anybody interested in VAR working well should be concerned about a referee making a decision after 20 seconds of viewing jumpy footage from one angle.
There are two ways VAR can intervene
The referee missed the incident and VAR intervened using intervention 2 and asked the referree to review. The referee reviewed and decided it was a handball therefore a penalty.
Two questions
Do you think VAR was wrong to use intervention 2?
Do you think the referee was wrong to decide it was handball?
Going back to this one again; given the hyperbole and furore over the correct intervention of VAR and the penalty awarded at the end of the second half last night (even though the same should have happened but didn’t at the end of the first half) MON and his players will be more aware than ever of any kind of false “levelling up” kind of effort from the officials who have been put under enormous pressure by all sorts of so called impartial pundits and commentators.
Celtic and MON will be wide to the potential extra hurdle they might face this Saturday.
3 I think
If the Moherwll/Celtic finished level 2 - 2, it would have left Hearts
3 points clear
+ 6 goals better GD
In the SPL, its PTS, GD, if both are the same then it's goals scored which Celtic are 4 goals better off at the moment
Do you get the irony of Celtic, as one of the big 2 playing the victim. For 100+ years all the other Scottish clubs could not buy a break against the two of ye.
Yes, goals scored would be the next deciding factor if teams are tied on points and goal difference and Celtic have scored more goals than Hearts).
It is Motherwell and Hearts (and others) who are playing the victim here as Celtic won the game
They were playing motherwell mate😅😇
I know but the greetin for Hearts made it seem Motherwell were irrelevant
Based on the evidence available to the ref at the time I would say it was not clear and therefore 1 and 2 should not be applied.
They are lucky that clearer evidence has since emerged that shows their guesswork to be correct.
But the question remains what influenced them to make the "guess" because it couldn't have been based on what the referee saw on the monitor, which we all saw, which is inconclusive and totally goes against the norm of requiring indisputable evidence for overturning a decision on the pitch.
The hysterical reaction to the officials correctly awarding a foul against Motherwell the other night continues
https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/a-scottish-fa-statement/?rid=13929
Looking forward to this. If Celtic win, then I’m happy for MON. If Hearts win, great to see someone else win the league after so long
how’s Elding been playing? Don’t watch Scottish football but check it on livescore and seems to be starting most matches but not as many goals as when he started
Pretty rubbish game so far, not the great spectacle we were all expecting. At this rate I can see Hearts holding out for the draw.
Terrible match so far. i can understand Hearts keeping behind the ball but they just keep giving it back to Celtic. Even as poor a Celtic team aas this should manage a couple of goals today
Hearts take the lead!
That’s a harsh pen
No surprise there pen to Celtic
What is happening is all so blatant since during the week.
That was a clear penalty, don't know what you guys are on about.
Clear handball and still you have folk saying it was not! They would declare black is white
where the fu@k is he supposed to put his arms while diving in to challenge / clear the ball, by his sides?
You for real?
Clearest penalty I've seen in a while, take off the tinfoil hat folks.
