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Fuel Protest (Read MOD NOTE on first post)

francois

I'm surprised no thread started yet. What are people's opinions on this, especially now the defence forces may intervene to unblock the refineries?

MOD NOTE: Keep it civil, there's no need to make generalisations against the protestors or other groups. Xenophobia, racism and general dog whistles for that type of thing will not be tolerated.

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Dial Hard

Eddie Hobbs' presence on O'Connell St should be all the indication people need as to the "calibre" of people aligning themselves with this protest.

For Petes Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376274#Comment_124376274

Because that's what the electorate voted for!

What's the point in having a general election if people are just going to go rogue and hold the rest of the country to ransom?

Is your hatred of this government so deep that you can't see that you're going to suffer because of all of these fools who have no mandate and represent nobody but themselves stopping all of the hard-working people of this country from getting access to fuel?

All because of a few cent a liter of fuel. That's all this is about. Every single last one of us will see rising fuel prices all so these c*nts can get a bit of green diesel.

It's f*cking madness and it is proof that people refuse to apply any real critical thinking.

dmakc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376254#Comment_124376254

I know it's a systemic issue, but I have a problem with their attitude of free reign over the electorate for 4.75yrs, then show up with a bone on the eve of elections. Fuel is the issue today, but there are so many issues every month that they should be held accountable for.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376243#Comment_124376243

But much of the reason the government has very little time for them is because there isn't broad public support for them. They've further reduced any support for them via the "heavy actions", this includes disrupting things like emergency services. At the point of disrupting things like fuel supplies, it's moving more into terrorism tbh.

SpoonyMcSpoon

Israel must be loving the de-stabilization in the West this is causing, it all seems to be working out perfectly for them. And conveniently the EU and Irish government are extremely slow to react, I wonder why that is.

For Petes Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376222#Comment_124376222

Yes, by way of a General Election.

Not by holding the entire country to ransom because they feel everyone has to suffer like they claim to be.

For Petes Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376208#Comment_124376208

However, as was said by Patrick O'Donovan on the News At One, those will be the people who are arrested and before the courts.

Another thing these pricks want.

bucketybuck

Considering the fat bellies on most of these "protesters" I suggest they should be careful about blocking any access for ambulances.

dmakc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376234#Comment_124376234

I don't agree with the fuel shortage aspect myself either. But when MM literally says he could ignore it up until that point, you see just how pointless protests are unless they go heavy. This is heavy, probably too heavy in parts, but there is extremely ignorance at the top of FFG and it's infuriating to me anyway. They only care about us every 4.5 years, then coast the rest

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376222#Comment_124376222

They're not really entitled to cause a fuel shortage though... That's them hitting vulnerable members of the public in general.

dmakc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376219#Comment_124376219

Literally on radio this morning in the context of this protest, and what would follow thereafter if he answers them.

God forbid he'd engage with the electorate instead of clocking up air mileage handshakes

dmakc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376218#Comment_124376218

They have a vote. And majority excercise it. Are elected representatives not answerable to the voting population?

Allinall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376192#Comment_124376192

I'd like to see where he said that.

Amirani

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376192#Comment_124376192

These protesters don't represent "the people". They're a rabble.

VinLieger

If it continues you could honestly see average people taking direct action against these selfish pricks and i wouldn't have a problem with it. A few burnt out lorries and tractors would put manners on them sharpish.

Genghis

With the refineries the thing to do is to swoop in and secure / cordon an area adjacent to the refinery and use the army to create a temporary access point inside the corden, take down a fence, lay a temporary road surface, etc.

Gardai maintain the cordon so the temporary access route cannot be blocked. Protesters at main gate are rendered impotent.

Defence Forces in this way are never involved in any physical confrontation or front line police work.

dmakc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376149#Comment_124376149

MM is also saying he's not answerable to the people. I could go on about him but I'll digress.

For Petes Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376139#Comment_124376139

And the c*nts who are causing petrol forecourts to run out of fuel can go and f*ck themselves. I hope every last one of them blocking the depots is made an example.

You think you're going to get cheaper petrol after this? Forecourts are losing out. They'll want to make up for those lost days and who's going to suffer? The same people these selfish bastards are claiming to represent. Petrol and diesel prices are going to go up because of all of this.

These pricks have an attitude that if they have to suffer, then so do the rest of us. They don't care that people are going to suffer.

Larbre34

You can't capitulate to this sort of blackmail.

As Micheál Martin said himself this morning, if the government began caving into ransom demands, every single day you'd have some cause celebre or other blocking up roads with vehicles or burning hay bales.

They have to surround and isolate these protests with Garda cordons, and get Garda and Army vehicles in to drag away and impound any truck, bus or tractor blocking roads and refineries, and arrest the owners under the public order acts.

We all have financial decisions to make in these times of global instability, including the government. The answer is not to hold fellow citizens to ransom, especially folk with small businesses or trying to get to medical appointments.

kabakuyu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376119#Comment_124376119

The SDs go wherever they think the most votes are,they will probably hsvd some other mealy mouthed statement out soon condemning army intervention,a crowd not to be trusted.

rob316

All garages around where I live in cork, out of diesel. Mad

Genghis

Plenty of fighting talk from the Minister for Justice, Taoiseach, Gardai, i.e. moving to phase of enforcement, calling for aid by Defence Forces, calling out unacceptable actions, etc.

And yet, no actual move. Gardai still in an enabling role, protests still continuing albeit with a concession on water treatment chemicals.

I wonder what the Govt. plan is, wait until evening time? Wait until tomorrow?

If they had hoped the threat alone might break up or deescalate the protest, it looks highly unlikely that will happen, if anything it seems to have emboldened it.

Going to look weak if after all the talk if the Minister / Govt don't do something to re open critical infrastructure by tomorrow morning. Already too late to avoid local fuel shortages in coming days I would say.

For Petes Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124376112#Comment_124376112

Or maybe they realise that blockading critical infrastructure is f*cking batshit and only hurts people.

If only you realised that as well.

kabakuyu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124375805#Comment_124375805

It to be expected of the SDs,they are largely urban party with a deep hatred of rural people or others who don't adhere to their world view.

For Petes Sake

This fella on Liveline now, stuck on the motorway after being discharged from hospital, trying to get to a chemist to get his prescription and talking about being in 8/10 pain levels.

These c*nts blocking the roads have zero shame, and they don't give a **** about 'de ordinary people'.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124375386#Comment_124375386

The army looks like they'll only be used to remove blockades on critical infrastructure. So the extent of what they'll be doing is moving vehicles to try to prevent them from causing fuel shortages. So the rest of your rant is more shoehorning in US issues for the sake of it.

Paddigol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124375769#Comment_124375769

And to blame de gubbermint. Meanwhile they don't blame de gubbermint for things de gubbermint should ACTUALLY be blamed for.

The levels of stupidity and ignorance openly broadcast on social media is phenomenal.

VinLieger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124375302#Comment_124375302

The people behind these "protests" are the same crowd who organised the riots on o O'Connell st and burning down IPAs centers etc, they are pig ignorant racist biggotted sh1tstains and unfortunately there are people currently in dire enough straits to think they are looking out for them and joining in with them.

eeepaulo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124375500#Comment_124375500

Here are the average prices for feb and march (first 2 columns) according to AA https://www.theaa.ie/aa-membership/fuel-prices/

Before and after excise and nora reduction

The last column is the price at the pump for the tax levies charges take to be the same as average for feb

i think i got my sums right

midlander12

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124375852#Comment_124375852

Their 'news' comes from their Facebook feeds. They also appear to be under the impression that no one other than themselves pays any tax or makes any contribution towards society, whereas they are in fact the ones benefitting from lower cost diesel. Unlike you, I was around for both the 1979 and (though very young) 1973 crises, when at one stage people would be lucky to get a can of petrol at a filling station. Everyone understood that the situation was caused by events elsewhere, though of course the resultant recessions were ultimately blamed on incumbent govts anyway, as they always are.