https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
The thing is, Sheepy: what happens if all of those armed groups went away? What would Israel do then?
Israel has proved times over that it is prepared to kill many thousands of people in ethnic cleansing campaigns. It is currently clearing Southern Lebanon of its population, and you have witnessed what has happened to the people of Gaza.
Do you think all of that violence is for the sake of defeating terrorists, so that the Israeli people may live in peace within their own borders? Or do you think that Israel has other plans?
You must be aware of the history of the region; what do you think will happen in your scenario when all these terrorist/resistance groups have gone away?
Youre delusional if you think the gulf states have anymore capability to damage Iran than the US/Israel are currently doing.
Theyre mostly banned from US hardware to ensure Israels dominance in the region.
Any attempted offensive will further destroy their tourism industry and will only invite Iran to escalate their attacks on them.
Pakistan wont get involved. The gulf states are puppets and theyre doing all they can currently.
Theyre not showing restraint. Theyre playing to their strengths.
you are spouting pro Israel Murder machine propaganda here every day as they slaughtered tens of thousands- shame on you
They not only have the hardware but also the bottomless treasuries (80 billion spent in Saudi alone last year compared to Irans 23bn) and if the war continues and there is no ceasefire they get an ever growing need to get rid of this terrorist regime.
They also have the alliances and plenty of groups they can arm and fight for them on the ground, Pakistan is right on the border with Iran and in defensive alliance with Saudi and is also a nuclear armed state
And their patience is running out
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/19/world/middleeast/iran-missiles-saudi-arabia-riyadh-yanbu.html
And so far attacks against similar facilities in Iran itself have not occurred
https://www.reddit.com/r/SeaEmploy/s/tDe7TaKujO
The delusion is on the side of Iran and their warmongering supporters who somehow live in the deluded hope that Iran attacking all their neighbours would result in those neighbours going “yeh maybe we should march in Jerusalem like we tried all them times before” instead of them going “these madmen have to go”
Just thinking about the rumours that the US are planning on sending their marines to Kharg island. I'm not saying that they aren't going to do it but I don't see how it makes any sense:
I can only think that the Americans are under the belief that if they can control that island then it can be used as a bargaining chip with the Iranians. Something that they could trade for reopening the straits of Hormuz or even exchanging for the Iranian nuclear material.
That's very hard to imagine though. Any deal like that requires trust and the Americans have already shown that they are not be trusted. The Iranians entered into mediated peace talks with them and they attacked them anyway. Trump is also liable to change his decisions on a whim. The Iranians would be fools to trust him.
Saudi Arabia could not defeat the Houthis. Ultimately it is down to how far America or Israel want to go in trying to topple the Iranian Regime. No third country is going to tip the scale in their favour.
Perhaps you are going by the assumption that Trump has thought through the options as much as you have?
(which are well thought through, TY)
B-1 over France to Iran, 15 mins ago
https://globe.adsb.fi/?icao=ae6c02
the defence analyst obviously hasn’t heard of the Aster 30 missile.
Palestine is not with Iran, it seems. Anyone more knowledgeable than me able to parse this message?
The biggest superpower in the world cannot stop Iran attacking what it wants but Saudia Arabia can if it wants to.
Is that your position?
That guy's a member of Fatah who in-theory control the West Bank. In reality they behave more like controlled opposition to the Israelis. Their only goal is to stay in their roles and get rich through corruption (Their leader Mahmoud Abbas has led them for over 20 years). In this scenario that guy is likely telling the Saudis what they want to hear in the hope of extracting some money out of them.
I am afraid you are not thinking the worst case scenario that is possible here
In Syria Assad and his Russian Buddies destroyed that country thoroughly killing hundreds of thousands and using chemical weapons,
In Iran any combination of Israelis, Saudis and Gulf states {whom been funding misery in Sudan let’s not forget} would not give two ****** about human rights and have the weapons to turn Iran into a cross between Gaza and Syria while Trump walks away
With other neighbours like Azerbaijan, Turkey, Iraq, Pakistan all grabbing chunks of land with their ethnic groups and maybe Kurds carving away a slice like they done in Syria
That’s the worst case scenario here
If this war doesn’t end soon, history books will be written about what a terrible strategic idea attacking and backing all their neighbours into a corner was.
What US alone can do can be much much worse, they avoided hitting economic targets up to now or carpet bombing every power plant, industry or dam, nor have imposed a blockade, sooner or later that will change if this war doesn’t end.
This war can get much worse for the Iranians, one just needs to look at past history, so far Trump held out in the hope of quick regime change, sooner or later he will either walk away and leave his buddies to mow the grass or double down and bomb the place back to Stone Age
Those warmongers cheering on the expansion of this war by Iran may yet regret cheering for more war
Either Iran falls or it doesnt. There is just a lot or nonsense doomsaying going on. If the Iranian regime somehow manages to survive it is not going to get into another longterm conflict with the gulf States, in its weakened state.
The gulf states are not going to get involved in the conflict if they suspect a TACO scenario.
Iranian missile attacks on Dimona in Israel, the town is home to it's nuclear research facilities.
That’s wishful thinking at best
If the war drags on AND Iran keeps attacking their neighbours destroying their economies by attacking energy, tourism, transport, finance, it and ai, housing, chemical industries etc leaving those countries with no future and hundreds of billions in damages and climbing casualties, while still sitting on trillions of assets outside the ME and trillions more they can’t export
They not gonna go “oh well there’s nothing we can do about that” and shrug
It’s fascinating that those who make the point that Iran should be able to defend itself out of one side of their mouth take the exact opposite position and belief when other countries who didn’t want to be involved keep getting attacked and start defending themselves
That is fanciful thinking. I would agree that attacking their neighbours by Iran is strategic lunacy but I have seen no serious commentators making the point that gulf states would heavily get involved in this conflict or would be the tipping point.
But this bad boy will…..
High speed boats may avoid helicopters but not this guy.
So a new plane in the region is going to reopen the strait? A bold prediction!
Do you know what this plane does ?
this will only making the israelis more determined to strike iran harder
apparently it was the US that went after iranian nuclear enrichment earlier
Judging by the number of Iranian leaders getting killed, a lot of people must be collecting the $10 million bounties.
Footage of Dimona being hit in the past hour. No doubt it will be pitched as Iranian retaliation for the strike on Natanz earlier today.
If they can hit a f35 they take out that old piece of junk. That thing was around before Iranian revolution.
Yes, because before Hamas (1987), Hezbollah (1982) and the IRGC (1979), there and peace and prosperity for ordinary people in the Middle East.
……#Iraq's electricity ministry says #Iranian gas supplies to Iraq have resumed at a rate of five million cubic meters per day……
It didnt take long to bring the South Pars plant back into operation.
All created as a result of US/Israeli interference. I don't understand how anyone thinking current actions will achieve a different result.
Is that why US was able to gain air superiority in a day and now fly B52s from 1950s without fear? /S
Insofar as the PA has any hope of future progress, it lies in some sort of Israeli-Saudi entente which involves the Saudis demanding some sort of viable Palestinian entity. It's a slim hope, given that the Saudis and other Arab states have shown almost zero interest in the Palestinians either before or since the latest phase of the conflict started in 2023.
I see Saudi is lambasting Israel for attacking Syria.
An enemy of my enemy is my friend?
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