https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
In the medium term America could be exporting Iranian oil. There will be a tax on it to pay for the cost of the war.
Will taking over a few islands really help if missiles are just still shot over their heads towards shipping?
I have said that Netanyahu will be gone, democracy will see to that.
However, you have made the claim that Israel will be seen in a couple of years time as a violent, aggressive rogue state, a pariah.
That simply won't be the case.
Some would call it “reparations” even
Iranians are lucky that Trump admin are so stupidly incompetent that they might get a few dark fleet tankers out of the area before the quarantine of Iran starts
What do Iranian master strategists think would happen when all of the economies of the neutral gulf states are destroyed by them, leaving those armed to the teeth countries reaching the same conclusion of Iranian regime having to go as otherwise those countries don’t have a future
They need to be more worried about thousands of drones flying at them, that is even before they reach the islands never mind if they actually reach it.
Trump's art of war - Always tell the enemy what you plan to do so they can prepare accordingly.
Why do people think Netanyahu will be ousted in elections? Israel is at war - will there be elections?
I think there will be a generation of voters in the west that will abhor any politician proclaiming any sympathy with Israel...a vote winner will be positioning their country opposing them. Not sure what becomes of israel when support from Europe and democrats in the US evaporates.
Because the Israeli people voted him in six times so they are bound to get it right and not vote for a blood thirsty psychopath this time
Anyone who succeeds Netanyahu will inherit the mess he has left for them. Hard to know if they will even be of a different character to him either.
The Israeli opposition leader has said he wants to see Israel bomb Iran even harder than Netanyahu is doing. They have gone so far down the violent, militaristic rabbit hole (a country fighting 'forever wars') that it will be impossible to return to any sort of normality.
Whether we like it or not Bibi reflects Israeli thinking. The Israeli public back the genocide in Gaza. They see Palestinians as inferior subhuman.
Israelis see Iran as the great bogeyman. Take them down and a greater Israel is possible. Their is a societal sickness that allows the state to treat Palestinians like vermin.
The likes of Miko Peled, Ilan Paper and Gideon Levy are a reminder that Israelis of conscience exist. Sadly they are in the minority.
The state of Israel is rotten and needs to be dismantled and replaced by a Palestinian state.
They have become inherently violent and dysfunctional. Their narrative that there was no genocide in Gaza, that the Gazan population had everything coming as payback for October 7th, that the Iranians and Lebanese deserve their fate and no sympathy - these poisonous, hate filled narratives will not go away if Netanyahu is replaced (or dies).
This is more akin to what is going on. 🤣
The Gulf States are already convinced of the need to get rid of the Iranian regime. They know that the regime cannot be allowed to survive.
Trump has been accused of a mistake by rejecting his allies and friends. At least he didn't fire missiles at his friends and allies like Iran did. Colossal stupidity on their part.
Posters talk about Israel being hated in the region for decades, they have attacked Iran, Lebanon and Syria. If they get hatred for attacking three countries, what do Iran get for attacking many more?
Yet, I am told that Iran are winning.
I dont think it's about winning, as Israel constantly seem to claiming they are doing this. Its about at the end of the bout of conflict, leaving your enemy to fight another day, which Israel and the US seemed to be guilty of, the last few years.
America won in Afghanistan for twenty years , and then were defeated.
We cant only speculate who will replace Yahoo based on what we see in our news. Which by the way are heavily censored. There are anti government and anti war protests in promised land which are dispersed by police using heavy handed approach and this is heavily censored. He wont go for election any time soon since this war is the only thing which keep him out of prison. Even Trump tried to insert himself in that calling for amnesty for his yahoo friend.
Operation Epstein Fury continues unabated for the next few weeks until they run out of ammo.
it’s mad how Israel a country of 10 million people is able to mess up the whole worlds economic stability not to mention murder tens of thousands of people and can get away with it although countries in Europe and elsewhere are getting sick of them
What do you think will be the opinion of the millions of gulf residents across a dozen mostly neutral neighbours that Iran attacked and continues day after day attacking civilian housing and economic infrastructure like refineries
If they continue to be attacked for months and years without any hope of a better future?
They not gonna blame Israel or US while it’s their fellow Muslims with Russian help killing them (just look at Syria and Syrians where this happened already)
Iran is not the problem - Israel started the war. If Israel still exists in 20-30 years time, it will still be bombing its neighbours - its history since the early 1970s at least has been to be in a permanent state of war. It will always just be 'one war away' from peace and stability.
Up til rabins assassination by a Zionist there may have been hope for a two state solution.
After Ariel sharon provoked war and Bibi was in his ranks.
I won't be surprised if they destroy the al asqa mosque to rebuild the temple.
That is where you are wrong, Iran is the problem.
For a start, Iran has been financing and supplying terrorist operations across the region for decades. No sensible person can conclude this isn't a problem. Secondly, Iran has turned on its neighbours and allies. Qatar is shocked by the attack on its gas field by Iran and fully blames Iran. They have lost nearly 20% of the country's revenue for the next five years. Iran most definitely is a huge huge problem for them.
Put yourself in the shoes of the average Mohamed on the ground if this war continues like this for months or even years in any of the states being attacked by Iran regularly, states like Oman, Saudi, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, Turkey, Azerbaijan, Pakistan
Your apartment was bombed by Iranian shaheed drones, you know people who are dead or injured, you heard that Iranians (just like Assad and Russians in Syria, or Russians in Ukraine) are now lobbing chemical weapons, your job is gone as your industry {tourism, transport, chemicals, finance} is shutdown, the state can’t fill coffers from energy etc exports as those factories got hit by missiles so energy and taxes went up
Are you gonna blame
I don’t think those cheering Iran and Co have thought this one through as to what catastrophic mistake it was to attack neighbours who didn’t want to be dragged into this war
Perhaps Iran and Israel are both pariahs and will be in conflict with their neighbours for the next few decades.
Perhaps western powers insatiable appetite for cheap oil blinded them to the negatives of puppet regimes.
Btw the mullahs supported the shah against communism.
And the world's oil supply will finally dry up.
They are both pariahs
but there seems to be a bizarre belief from those defending Irans attacks against all their mostly neutral neighbours, that these attacks would somehow result in all those neighbours uniting and marching onto Jerusalem like the Arabs have done in the multiple wars against Israel in 20th century
Instead of appreciating that the outcome of all these economies and polities being fundamentally threatened to their core in an Arab word whom want nothing more than continue living in their cozy prosperity, would most likely instead result in them uniting against Iran and their scattered bands of terrorists
80% of mid east oil goes east not west, this self hatred of ourselves by the far Left is bizarre, especially since it lumps us in Ireland with wildly different countries
When are those so ashamed of being “westerners” put their mouths where their rhetoric is and move to such great bastions of liberal democracy like China etc?
Israeli tanks now gathering on the Lebanese border - under the cover of Trump bombing Iran and Iran blasting every Arab state within its reach, Netanyahu follows his own true war agenda - to grab Southern Lebanon - minus its people, its businesses, its buildings. A fine mess you’ve gotten the whole world into Donald. The bigliest ugliest stupid ist mess.
The gulf states are not neutral. They house US bases that are being used to paunch attacks.
Theres plenty to dislike about the Iranian regime. Not to mention US/Israel regimes.
But Irans response to attack Gulf states makes both strategic and ethical sense.
Do you realise how deeply tied he is to the zionist movement in America? I believe both Bibi and Putin have dirt on Donnie. If that is the case there is no way he will turn on either of them even if he wanted to.
Out of curiousity have you watched the interview with Joe Kent on Tucker Carlson's podcast.
Ask Hitler how his strategy of declaring war on everyone and everything ended up for his thousand year reich, it’s a terrible strategy that will end in tears for the Iranians
And that’s before we get to what it means for neutral undefended countries with ties to US like Ireland
