https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
Yes, as well as getting angry about a genocide committed on October 7 by Hamas, whom Gazans elected to represent them. I know what you mean. See, two sides here, but quite clear you are 110 percent only concerned with demonizing Israel and its people; and yes, Israel have done plenty wrong in my view since October 7
Fair enough, but it's not an answer to the question. It's a problem that would be thorny enough if it came to really solving, I think.
No. It's a guess based on what happened in the June 2025 attacks and Israel's proximity to Iran. In that 2025 obliteration, the US only attacked 3 sites. Israel did the rest. Israel were the ones that killed the Ayatollah and they are the ones claiming the assassinations of the other regime leaders. They bombed the gas field. Just like June 2025, the US are providing the bulk of the "mass" bombing effort while Israel are flying the majority of precision sorties. On Day 1 the IDF started that approx 200 jets targeted 500 sites.
There are many thousands, probably millions of bots online like you that use the exact same playbook of waffle and obfuscation to run interference for a genocidal regime.
And your post reads exactly like those bots.
Look at the nonsense coming out of European countries…. 'the attack on oil & gas infrastruture is a serious escalation by ……'
Anyone guess who they condemn and blame for the serious escalation?
Aside from the opening response over the first 3 days, Iran seem to be increasing both in drone and missile attacks. Now 70 missiles and 230 drones sent. How many days they can go on for and how many missiles the other side has to shoot them down should be answered this coming week.
As Clark Gable said, my honest answer to the question of where the displaced from Israel would go in the event of that genocidal state ceasing to exist is "frankly my dear, I don't give a damn".
I don't think people were too worried about where the German residents of what is now western Poland went 80 years ago.
Israel exists only as a parasitic, genocidal entity and that's all it can ever exist as. It's a malignant cancer in the rectum of humanity. The people that run it, and the majority of Israelis, are high on their own supply of biblical end times insanity. They are far, far, far too radicalised and extreme at this point to ever change.
THEY are the problem in the region and along with Russia, they are the most problematic state on earth, the two major root causes and instigators of what will likely come to be known in time as World War III.
Trump is now saying Iran could be the next Vietnam and he has no problem with that , heaven help us all . PS Every pension & stock holding people has already dropped a bit but they will plummet in the coming months and years with Trump & Israel causing mayhem & death
That is nothing compared to tens of millions of Africans possibly fleeing famine in six months. Maybe hundreds of millions, it is quite possible.
Yeah, but that attitude could lead to atrocities in the other direction, including to Israelis who don't even support what their government is doing domestically or internationally, and the world could turn a blind eye because turn about is fair play. And long term it wouldn't even solve anything. There would probably still arise a desire in the diaspóra to return at some point and the whole thing repeats again.
So you are doing exactly what you criticized me for doing, posting something without knowing that its true or verified. Well done.
Saudi foreign minister warns they reserve right to respond militarily to Iran.
Also Trump issues an EO reopening a California pipeline that was closed on 2015 after an environmental disaster. It's supposed to help with oil price.
It's baffling how Israel (a country containing 7m Israelis) has a firm hold over western governments. Trump I can understand, yes, but how does a small country in the Middle East get to control the western narrative?
Who some gazans elected.
The election was something like 20 years ago. 50% of the population are under 18 so they never got to vote. In fact no-one currently under 38 would have had the chance to vote. So it's a lot more than 50% of the population who never voted. I can't find a breakdown by age group, but let's say the total of people who never had a chance to vote is 65% of the current population. So 35% were able to vote.
And we can assume there wasn't close to 100% turnout. Let's say 80% to be nice. And Hamas got just under 50% of the vote.
so of the people who were allowed to vote, 80% voted and 50% if them voted for Hamas. So 40% of the population at that time voted for Hamas. And that's 40% of the 35% of people alive today who were eligible to vote.
So a grand total of 14% of the current gazan population voted for Hamas.
And they never voted for Hamas to take over the gaza strip by force. They never voted for hamas to attack Israel in October 2 years ago.
Since I can't find accurate figures, my numbers are probably off. We can't be certain it's only 15% of the population aged between 18 and 38. And the turnout might have been higher or lower than 80%. But either way, as a ball park figure, I think we can see that the percentage of the current population who voted for Hamas is pretty small. And once again, Hamas wasn't campaigning on a platform of armed takeover of Gaza, so no-one ever voted for that.
@A Dub in Glasgo ”Anyone guess who they condemn and blame for the serious escalation?”……. Have you forgotten that Iran starting attacking oil facilities two weeks ago?
The United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, and Japan say they’ll take steps to stabilise energy markets and are ready to join “appropriate efforts” to ensure safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz.
I am trying to back my post up with data. IDF won't offer all the data readily. Yours is very easy to verify - Japan banning Israeli tourists.
Iranian ballistic missile struck the Haifa oil refinery in Israel. Power outages.
The US/Israeli attack on the worlds largest gas field is waved away as 'mere noise'
Sure, but it's just regular people's money that they are willing to sacrifice.
I can see the Saudi princes would align with Israel as they rely on the US for their military security.
When you consider 15 of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi's (none were Iranian, Iraqi or Afghanistan) it's not hard to see that the kingdoms is being propped up by the US.
Likewise Israel needs US aid and military supplies, so neither regimes want to lose their protector.
It's pathetic.
Why invent figure when the figures are public
As of yesterday
US 8000 sorties
https://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2026/03/us-and-israel-strike-more-military-targets-plus-irans-leadership-repression-units-and-energy-sites-march-17-18-updates.php
Israel 5000 sorties
https://israel-alma.org/daily-report-the-second-iran-war-march-16-2026-1800/
ISW even offer daily graphs
https://understandingwar.org/research/middle-east/iran-update-special-report-march-18-2026/
Not by Qatar. They are are declaring force majure on all it's long term gas contracts and will lose 17% of Qatar's liquefied gas exports for a period of between 3 and 5 years resulting in an annual loss of $20 billion / year in revenue.
Those that have long term fixed price contracts now have to pay the daily price as well as source it.
That will show em
The Goyim need to wake up
A decades long effort of courting and influencing politicians to varying degrees. I don't know the inner workings of every government but there does seem to be an element of residual guilt within the German political system, the Labour Friends of Israel is well known and documented in the UK. Obviously in the US Citizens United has given both corporations and state actors (AIPAC and aligned bodies) carte blanche to throw money into politics there.
Yes, plus Israel faced horrendous terrorist acts against them too. I'm old enough to remember the Hamas suicide bombings in Israel back in the early 1990's.
I do think that the WW2 holocaust against the Jewish people has a lot to do with it too though.
But these days? Even after the genocide against the Palestinians of Gaza? I think entrenched funding, lobbying, propaganda… they have a lot to do with it. The Israelis have built up quite an effective machine in that way.
In fairness the Palestinians have shelters too (tunnels), it's just Hamas wont let the general population in there.
It's really weird to watch. I can fully understand Trump with his huge economy and military having clout in the west, but this anachronistic small rogue state in the Middle East having a hold over big western countries and their politicians and media is rather strange.