Possibly a thread elsewhere already but
Temple Bar has always been overpriced but €9 for a pint is pretty insane.
Roughly 90 pints per keg × 9 = 1800 per keg they must be making a pretty penny. I know rents, insurance, staff etc
Locally i paid €4.90 for a pint of Birra Moretti
So would or do you pay €9 a pint..
Wouldn't that be priced though according to what the local market there can afford?
You see similar in Spain regarding pints (or 500mls rather), these are €4 to €5 now in the holiday destinations whereas they're still €2.50 to €3 away from the tourist areas.
Their products in Africa were priced to local costs and also made to local costs. Til they sold the brewery.
I don’t know much about business but I’d love to see the difference if Guinness became an Irish brand again. If it’s sold, likely to be US, or Middle East lbh
Its a multinational drinks company, if they took that attitude 50 or 100 years ago Guinness would still only be a small regional brewery only serving the british and irish markets. Its strange for a huge multinational drinks company to be retreating from the African market when they built the nigerian brewery long before Guinness was part of a huge drinks conglomerate.
Only Irish buyer with big enough pockets is the state via ISIF. Which formerly owned Rye River.
Unless a person bought it. Denis O’Brien, Stripe brothers.
But if I had 10B I know what I’d be doing
The Collison brothers would be a very interesting new owner for Guinness. Would prefer them two any day over the other option you gave for which I can't think of a despicable enough word to describe.
In most african destinations the Diageo products are classes and priced as premium products, way outside the local budget. The local breweries and distilleries are higher volume operations.
True but the need to meet KPI as a group outways longterm gain.
Yes.
Tim Martin, CEO of JDW, said that Guinness is doing very well.
Thats definitely an aspect but there is a lot more to it than that. It is the biggest seller outside the house lager in a lot of pubs and has been that way for at least 15 years now and it's not a demographic heavily influenced by social media that drove it. It's association with rugby in the UK was a brilliant move by Diagio.
The Middle East wouldn't be known for drinks companies. Most likely AB-Inbev (America/Belgium) who don't have a stout despite being the biggest company in the world. They definitely have the clout.
Heineken probably could afford it but it would probably be the death of Murphys. Coors could also try break the bank for it.
More left field but possible would be Chinese or Japanese breweries who have been growing internationally.
Won't happen. It would go to a multinational drinks company.
but surely that was also the case in the 1960s when Guinness established the nigerian brewery and that now has a long history. Also they have to price their products for the local markets, thats how you build a brand. That is how Guinness became a global brand, in many ways Guinness was probably more forward looking as a private enterprise than as a global conglomerate because they could look at the very long term. Withdrawing from the African market is not a forward looking move because that is where demand will rise whereas in Europe and N America demand for alcohol products is falling due to all the health and wellness trends.
Heineken would never get past the CCPC here unless they sold Cork, closing it would not allow a deal.
Carlsberg have always been who I think would buy it (Diageo, not Ladys Well)
The Collisons aren't much better and have gone MAGA.
Good for them - they are more likely then to put a bit of pride back in to the brand and also take on the government (and NGOs like Alcohol Action Ireland) over excessive taxes on alcohol and other daft restrictions too.
I haven't seen any indication that the Collisons have any intention of investing in Guinness.
I don't know if they even drink it.
Their parents owned a hotel so maybe they could be said to have some knowledge of the trade.
It's all just weird fantasy bollix like the Americans have for Musk or the En6for Dyson or Branson.
Some weird idea that a rich business person will swoop in and fulfil the dreams and aspirations of the little guy.
Carlsberg can't afford it, even ignoring the britvic deal - zero chance
They have not withdrawn from Africa, they have changed the business model but not withdrawn - they sell the concentrate but don't own the brewery, asset light is the catchphrase
A flight of fancy I suppose.
If their accountants didn't put the off the idea their parents might.
Would you be of the opinion that Guinness as a company was better for the consumer pre-1997 or better since the merger to form Diagio?
I wasn't a consumer pre 1997 so I have no clue.
It has absolutely 100% fuk all got to do with the Collison brothers or any whimsical totally baseless ideas you have on their ability to run the brand though.
Looking more and more like a wind-up.
€7.10 for a Guinness in a popular Dublin 6 pub. Ill be in town later so expect it to be a little bit more.
6.50 in Souths (Limerick) last week and the same in Lanzarote last month.
€6.50 for a pint of Guinness in Lazorote? I stick with Tropical and Dorada at €3-4. I only drink Guinness in Ireland or UK.
Don’t like Tropical, if I’m drinking local I prefer Estrella but after a few days of too much fizzy stuff a pint of plain is welcome. The Dugout in PdC has a lovely pint, if in Fuerteventura try O’Neills in Corralejo.
Prices from one pub in Berlin, May 2026
50cl draught beers have increased to typically €4.20 / €4.40
However, and this is astonishing for a capital city in 2026, Sternburg pils 50cl bottle is still €1.80!!!!
Sternburg pils 50cl bottle is still €1.80!!!!
I was out in Malahide a few weeks ago. I started in Gibneys. I know it's Malahide, but paying €8.50 for a Guinness. Gorgeous pint, but I couldn't believe it. I paid €6 here in October 22. Outrageous increase.
I had one, then decided to go on a crawl. I went accross the road to Fowlers and paid €7.50. It's my favourite pub, the pints are sub par, then i went to Duffys, €6.90. The nicest and cheaoest although not the most comfortable seats, however the only pub where the staff are all over you.
I then ventured further, I went to Gilbert and Wright's (7.40) and Sylvesters GAA (€7).
So no where is cheap anymore, what else is to be expected in Malahide, however the quality difference is amazing. Sadly Gibneys was the best, Duffys was great, the rest were poor-mid.
Sternburg Export is 5.2%.
The lowest price with our MUP for 5.2% 500ml is €2.05.
That's the minimum for an off licence/supermarket, never mind a bar.
