https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
Another attempt at deflection.
I'm stating that we do not know the numbers killed, all your links show that a total number cannot be confirmed as of yet.
Oh, because you posted a false claim about over 100 dead children last week it doesn't matter?
I think he's right. They wouldn't.
They'd each get a 3 bed house, medical card, pets flown over, PPS numbers and the dole, fuel allowance, work upto 20 hours without losing benefits, fast track citizenship etc.
It's called treasure Ireland for a reason.
I'm happy to have a rational discussion on this if it can be done without the "evil Israel" trope, and stick to realpolitik. I'd say the most likely outcome once the hostilities quieten down will be an Israeli withdrawal, but with a strong possibility that they will retain a buffer zone North of the Israeli border. I think long-term occupation would not be popular with most of the Israeli public. It's a big cost for questionable gains. If there is a new, less right-wing, Israeli government after the next election, then I think full withdrawal becomes more likely. I'd be hopeful enough that the Lebanese government will be able to negotiate at least a phased withdrawal of Israeli forces with security guarantees from the Lebanese.
With Hezbollah's declining influence (And moronic decision-making), the possibility grows that Lebanon will reach the same kind of peaceful co-existence with Israel that Egypt and Jordan have. Hezbollah taking a further hammering in the current conflict would assist this. That would be a big win for both the Lebanese government and the Israeli government, and it sounds like the Lebanese government would be on for this. Hopefully, elections will give us an Israeli government that will seize the opportunity.
If only Iran was a free and open country with free media where journalists are not jailed and operating NGOs that could report and investigate freely various atrocities carried out by both sides /s
Why the need to blame Israel for something that is now broadly recognised by most people who are not Donald Trump, was carried out by American forces? It's trumpian levels of bizarreness, frankly.
Whoever provided the location for the strike on the school clearly f..cked up (somewhere along the chain of information). Occam's razor, along with basic common sense outside of irrational conspiracy theories, screams this.
I mean an Israeli supporter posting this is just the most tone deaf thing ever posted on this site and that’s saying something. In Gaza , Israel prefer to murder the journalists instead of imprisoning them though. They’ve murdered more journalists than everyone else put together over this past number of years.
Even The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Dan Caine sounds like a fanatical freak.
General Caine also paid tribute to the eight US service members who have died and the thousands prosecuting the war, which he described as "perfectly organised chaos… [the] beautiful symphony of American spirit."
I’m suggesting that both the Americans and Israelis have a history of attacking schools and hospitals so suggesting they wouldn’t attack them if Iranian soldiers were not present is patently untrue.
And the international press are still banned.
If only Israel was a free and open country with free media where journalists are not slaughtered with impunity. 36000 I believe dead at the last count.
Care to point to a single post of mine where I supported the deplorable Israeli regime?
They actually arresting their own journalists in Israel for trying to report on the real damage. There's a five year prison sentence for anyone posting videos of the actual damage in Israel.
How many "self hating lefties " have you seen begging foreign leaders to teach our government a lesson ?
Some of the most prominent "Right wingers" have been on twitter for a long time hoping the Orangeutan Hits us hard with tarrifs etc. You will see the same when MM makes his visit next week.
I'm not sure whether peaceful coexistence is going to be possible, there's just too much bad blood between the two countries for this to comer about in the near term, but I imagine there'll be some sort of cold acceptance of each other. Lebanon's problems go further than just the presence of Hezbollah and other terror/paramilitary organisations on its soil. There's a strong three-, or four-way ethnic divide present in that country, that'll make it tough to find some sort of stable political state in the long term. It's not impossible, but it'll take some serious work.
Having said that, Israel is not going to be able to hold Southern Lebanon for any extended period of time in any case. Regardless of the political issues, they simply don't have enough soldiers to secure the area. The IDF has a total strength of around 170k troops, with 120k of those in the army. Those numbers already include conscripts. Mind you, a large percentage of the numbers I've just posted will be in support units, not combat units, so the number of actual front-line troops is considerably lower still, and part of those available troops are already tied down in ongoing operations. And even if there are 463k reservists that Israel can draw on if need be, that'll still put a strain on the economy that won't be sustainable in the long term. Eventually, Israel will have to withdraw.
The attempt by Israeli / USA shills was to state that Iran double tapped the girls school. The response form me since that attack was that it was clearly a missile from the Israel / USA attackers and if it was the USA then Trump and his admin learned well from Israel in terms of the target, the double tap and the subsequent deflection / cover up.
More absolute nosense.
I don’t know nor do I care much for the far right either, they with far left are two arse cheeks around the same black hole
I’m only going by what was posted on this thread, glee and gloating over fellow citizens being stuck in middle of this being attacked by Iran in what are neutral countries, apparently they deserve it for being “westerners”
Maybe you would list for me all the times in the last decade when the Americans have targetted schools.
Anyway just reading about the billion dollar early warning radar system that was taken out by a $50K drone put the value of the strike at 20,000/1 for the Iranians.
Iran has no shortage of on the ground intel so even media blackouts by the US and Israel are useless.
Attacking Iran by air is already an extremely expensive affair that depletes their defenses at an unsustainable rate, and a boots on the ground invasion of Iran would be into a territory far greater and geographically much more challenging than Iraq.
Added to that will be a population far better prepared for invasion, especially considering the lessons learnt from the Iraq invasion.
This current conflagration is entirely a trap of Trump's own construction.
Yep, the Iranians are winning, we heard it here first.
Oh they are not winning, and neither is the US, the US have opened a Pandora’s box imo, and they are taking out defence from Korea, not good at all, appear to be running tight on missiles. Now if something else was to happen…
Definitely a whiff of that low tech ingenuity Vs high tech expensive industry about.
It's more accurate to say the Iranians are surviving, whereas the US are led by Israel deeper into an unnecessary expensive war that actually internally weakens each regime they prop up in the Gulf.
Added to that ships are moving again through the strait but only if bound for India and China.
False dichotomy. Not believing your figure, repeated in every second post for weeks, does not mean believing the Iranian government figure. You do understand that?
When will you accept that there is no Israel/USA about it? It was an American strike. Not Israeli. American.
The obsession with needing to blame Israel really is bizarre.
Anyone with a basic knowledge of geography and the weapons involved would have guessed that that was always the overwhelming likelihood from the start.
Just like Israeli controlled Gaza.
Interesting revelations about a new release of Epstein files over last weekend. The link below is to another Boards thread.
Similar to how cheap middle isle components were utilized by Ukraine to take out million dollar Russian tanks.
I've seen one Wall Street Journal piece stating that in the UAE while Iranian missiles have decline the rate of drone attacks has remained consistent at about 100 a day. If it takes one million dollar missile to down a $50K drone then that's still a very impressive one twentieth cost return for Iran.
But 50K is considered the upper end of cost, much cheaper Iranian drones made of plywood and styrofoam are also costing the same amount to shoot down.
I can imagine on the lower end such drone making can be is a cottege industry in Iran, not unlike in Ukraine.
He was installed by Trump last year when he sacked the previous Biden appointee, so he's a true believer.
Pete Hesgeth stating that Iranians are firing missiles from schools and hospitals. He must of been getting lessons off the IDF, next it will be tunnels and command centres under mosques, historical sites and bakeries.
