https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
Because developing and building a nuclear bomb is extremely difficult, takes many years, mainly due to the immense industrial effort and highly specialized technology required to produce the necessary grade uranium etc.
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One piece of info we have is that Ed Miliband is strongly anti-war and threatened to bring down Starmer's government if it weighed in on the side of Trump and Netanyahu.
Based on what?
And this guy is a “centrist” in israel. Imagine the pearl clutching if someone said that about Israel.
Israel’s opposition leader has called for Israel to create a “sterile zone” in southern Lebanon, similar to the Yellow Line in Gaza, by removing Lebanese villages there.
Yair Lapid, who heads the centrist Yesh Atid party, told a local television channel that Israel would “have no choice” but to create a “sterile zone” in southern Lebanon. “It might be unaesthetic, or unpleasant, to scrape away two or three Lebanese villages,” he said, “but they brought it upon themselves.”
When Pakistan and North Korea managed it, I think Iran could have as well. The ayatollah is like a pope, not just a dictator of a country, and he considered haram. He issued a fatwa against it.
Going forward after this, Iran will most likely develop a nuclear bomb in my lifetime. They made an agreement with Obama and it was torn up. And then they were bombed twice since while negotiating. Israel has stepped away from proxy war sort of stuff and now any country relying on other countries playing nice knows it doesn't work. The "rules-based order" has completely broken down.
Obviously, you believe that they will use this in anger and only America and Israel should have them. I believe the most likely countries to use a nuclear bomb are Israel and America and I believe you will support it when it happens.
Research how difficult it is to make a nuclear bomb and how many years it takes.
The reality is America and other countries have nuclear weapons.
Since ww2 when it was first used, how many times has America used nuclear bombs? In Vietnam, Iraq etc?
The only country to have ever used a nuclear bomb on a civilian population, not once but twice mind (also when that same population had surrendered) are the ones currently murdering schoolgirls and have enabled a genocide over the last two years. It ain't Russian/Iran/NK or Pakistan…
You're talking about the penny not having dropped yet?
Keir Starmer suggested allowing the US to use the bases to carry out defensive strikes against Iranian targets at the meeting last Friday but was met with opposition from Ed Miliband, Rachel Reeves, Yvette Cooper and Shabana Mahmood, according to the Spectator, a report which was then picked up by several media outlets.
Permission to allow the bases to be used against Iran’s missile sites was granted on Sunday after Tehran had launched a wave of retaliatory attacks against countries across the Middle East.
What do you mean, Japan had surrendered? It absolutely had not, and had made it clear it would fight on to the last man to defend the homeland.
Even after the two bombs were dropped there was appetite to keep fighting on.
You first
We're getting closer.
Brent crude @ $90
WTI Crude @ $85
Americans will be going nuts, it's like WW3 breaking out if a gallon of petrol goes up 10 cents over there.
Imagine how much it would go up though if Iranian backed Hamas and Hezbollah got their hands on a nuclear weapon and carried out their wish to use it on Israel?
Penny dropped yet?
Iranian backed Hamas and Hezbollah
Is this really the only thing you can say over and over again?
That is a pack of lies.
Japan only surrendered after the bombs. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Worse are those who are ignorant of history.
It still isn't clear who killed the schoolgirls, but are the 100 schoolgirls killed in that incident more worthy of sympathy than the 33,000 civilian protesters killed by the Iranian regime?
There is only one state threatening to drop nuclear bombs, that is Israel who actually have them but deny even having them.
A de facto illicit nuclear arsenal.
The Boogey Man is on the bed, not under it.
It is only 'unclear' to the warmongers
They seem to be a good job without Russia's help. Truth is they've probably got loads of spotters on the ground in all the gulf states who can pin point exactly where military assets are located. Some clips from the gulf states record cheering when US bases get hit.
If this Russian angle is being played to try to get Trump angry at Putin it's futile. Trump is balls deep in the Putin fan club.
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/be-careful-about-blaming-the-united-states-or-israel-for-killing-iranian-schoolgirls/
If only I had your deep-seated belief in propaganda.
As I said, it remains unclear. Nobody has taken responsibility and there is no clear evidence.
You guys seem to love sharing content from conservative think tanks ATM.…
I did not click your link but can tell it is from an American right-wing 'think tank'. As I said, the only people 'unclear' are the warmongers
When the war ends it will be interesting to see how many Israeli's leave. Iran has a unique opportunity to free the Palestinians from Jewish oppression. It will be interesting to see if they take it.
You know, when you say that the Japanese population had already surrendered when the Americans dropped the 2 atomic bombs on Japan, you just set a standard that nothing you say is believable. It's not like there is any mystery or ambiguity about Japan's attitude to surrender at that point (which is that they were going to fight to the last person).
That will be really good news for Ukraine if that is proven to be true.
Ha I did to have a look at this blog put forward as some sort of evidence, which it turns out is nothing more than a piece of propaganda in itself.
"Certainly, it is possible a bomb went awry; the elementary school is close to an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps base. But, after decades of being deceived by Hezbollah “fauxtography” and “Pallywood” processions in which dead Hamas children get up and run off as soon as the Western cameramen or naïve human rights workers move on"
Says a lot about a person using this blog as a back up to their opinions.
Conservative think tanks are where they get their talking points from and they all sing from the same hymn sheet.
They're as transparent as a freshly washed pane of glass.
The blog isn't put forward as "evidence". It's put forward as part of a point being made that it's not wise to automatically draw a conclusion based on zero evidence, especially not when the only information put forward so far is from Iranian state TV.
The poster couldn't have made the point any clearer - that it's not clear what exactly happened, unless you take Iranian State TV as gospel.
Yet straight away people are jumping on it as if he offered it as proof that it was expressly not the US or Israel, when no such claim was made whatsoever, neither by the poster, or even the blog itself.
The fact is pretty objectively simple - it's impossible to say right now what exactly happened.
That is not the same as rushing to defend the US and claiming it definitely is not responsible.
Some Jews actually identify as Palestinian, as they were from Jewish families that lived alongside Christian and Muslim Palestinians. Then you have Arab Jews. It's not binary, but certainly I think some Zionists might actually jump at the offer of a new Israel somewhere in the USA if they're granted total autonomy.
The US christian fundi's who believe in the Book of Revelations would actually love that as there has to be a certain amount of Jewish repenters present alive amongst them to beget the rapture, or some such tosh.
Israel has had many opportunities to use a nuclear bomb but never has.
Iran supplied Hezbollah and Hamas on the other hand never could use one, as they did not have one, but probably would if they had one.
You realise a general assumption in military theory is with a rational leader, it's in their self interest to not use them. Not even North Korea has used nukes against their neighbours. So saying Iran would probably use nukes doesn't actually align with the reality of nuclear politics. That's not to say I'm in favour of them or any other state getting nukes
