https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
It really depends. If HAMAS didn't attack Israel of course I think they shouldn't be bombed. Likewise Hezbollah.
I know Israel is a democracy but Judaism rules the roost so you could probably say it's got elements to a fanatical theocracy aswell? It certainly seems that way to me.
The problem here you have Israel that's hellbent on capturing more areas (settlements) from Palestinians and they don't seem willing to stop. Then you've got Iran who I'm assuming it's in retaliation to this they want to destroy Israel.
When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object in country terms you usually end up with war.
It's like Russia and Ukraine. Ukrainians insisted on nothing less then EU membership and Russia insisted on them remaining a loyal puppet.
I think Iran but I might remember wrong had developed anti ship missiles. These don't seem to have materialised. Maybe the US focused on hitting these launch sites first. I also believe they took out the Iranian submarine. I used to believe ships in the age of ballistic missiles to be sitting ducks but it looks like I'm wrong for reasons you outlined plus a few others. Unless a nation has air dominance, submarine dominance or top class anti ship missiles it looks like the age of the ship continues.
As for Israel I believe they'd definitely run out of ADM if they just sat there and let Iran have free reign. But they seem to be faring much more favourable because they're on the attack along with the US.
Iran don't seem to be able to get too much of their long range stocks fired at Israel. Too many missiles and launchers are being destroyed and I would be surprised if they collapsed the entrances to the deep underground storage bunkers so that stocks are stuck underground.
There seems to be something going on with the Kurds:
This could start a bitter war in the northwest.
Won't be long before these get involved in another middle east adventure at the behest of Daddy. Forget about a defensive alliance " Nato is also there for US to project power on the world stage "
I wonder if member states taxpayers know that they are supporting the US & Israel in it's illegal act of unprovoked aggression ?
Incredible double standards honestly.
The Israel US axis has opened Pandora’s box and the effects of their actions will have ramifications worldwide for millions of lives and livelihoods. It is way past time to be humouring Trump.
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-underground-missiles-59b3492c
Well it was nice of the regime to conveniently place most their missiles and missile launchers in central locations that are now buried
You must be joking that would never happen. You’ll have that slippery prick in a couple of days time with the crystal bowl of shamrock with that stupid **** grin kissing ass in Washington. He won’t open his fcking mouth that’s for sure.
Yet another neutral country hit, Turkey yesterday, Azerbaijan today
The founding ideals of NATO if they were ever to be believed really are well and truly dead.
Yes PAC-2 and PAC-3 can be operated simultaneously (and should be). PAC-2 (GEM-T) in particular should be reserved where possible for air breathing threats such as Aircraft, Cruise Missiles and even in extremis, drones, but of course CRAM, VSHORAD, MANPADS and AA artillery are far better options for defence against Shaheds
I do think your reply misses the salient point made though regarding the manufacture date of the missile and the absence of any hardware overhaul data on the data plate. As you know better than I, software and minor changes wouldn't be tracked on the data plate, rather paperwork and software will keep on top of those. However, overhaul, motor change and LRU replacement would all be required at least once to date in the life of a 26 year old missile and, that level of overhaul is noted on a modified or replaced data plate.
The data plate shown in the post I shared, is unmodified and 26 years old. That points to old and unreconditiined missiles and given that Qatar didn't sign for Patriots until 2014, and did buy a mix of PAC-3 and PAC-2 it seems a little odd that they are launching 26yo missiles from their 12yo stockpile. Now certainly, FMS supplies equipment that nots always newly manufactured but again, the lack of any remanufacturing date on the plate for rocket motors and LRUs points to old stock that was supplied without overhaul as part of a pre attack surge of interceptors to the Gulf states.
I think that's wishful thinking. No doubt the last two years have caused economic hardship for Israel, but with the support of America and the EU, i don't see the Israeli economy deteriorating to the extent that it would need to in order to bring about mass protests. Economic statecraft that often brings about these situations is never going to be applied to Israel as long as it has big brother covering its back.
The coverage of this in some media outlets is revealing :
Russia invades Ukraine
Israel crosses over into Lebanon
Has our own president sent condolences yet?
It’s open season on neutral countries
"Absolutely rubbish"? So why are the BBC reporting that Iran has attacked Kurdish groups in Iraq and Iran?
Iran's military has said it has targeted the headquarters of Kurdish forces in northern Iraq, stepping up strikes on Kurdish regions in both Iran and Iraq.
In a statement quoted by Iran's state media, the military said it attacked "Kurdish groups opposed to the revolution in Iraqi Kurdistan with three missiles".
Tehran is intensifying its attacks on Iranian Kurdish groups in Iraq amid speculation that US President Donald Trump wants them to join the fight against Iran, as US and Israeli strikes continue.
One person was killed and three injured in Iranian strikes on Tuesday and Wednesday on bases belonging to two separate Kurdish opposition groups, the BBC has confirmed.
The BBC has visited the scene of the attacks at these bases.
No, she hasn't.
The reality is i'd say there is talks going on behind the scenes already. Bibi won't like that and will probably pick up the phone to Donnie to nip it in the bud
More and more it seems Israel are conducting this operation and being given carte blanche from their US handlers. They're stepping over the line of those boundaries they had before and because there's no push back they are getting braver and braver with pushing their own agenda. The fact that this is being sold to American Christian zionists, as well as the armed forces, as enabling rapture is worrying. For all the talk of the middle east being full of violent religious extremists, we now have the most powerful army in the world being a Christian zionism extremist group.
A warship is not non-combative.
The Americans are like children or teens with all these insanely powerful toys, and they just want to use them…..it's weird bloodthirsty violence for the sake of it. It's like they have next to no maturity, restraint, empathy, consideration, kindness…..using their toys is way more important!
Centcom is asking the Pentagon to send more military intelligence officers to its headquarters in Tampa, Florida, to support operations against Iran for at least 100 days but likely through September.
Likely September now ! I am sure Trump said 3-5 weeks a couple of days ago. We will be lucky to have enough petrol to fill a Zippo lighter by then.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/04/evacuation-middle-east-iran-war-00812898
There's no shortage of supply of oil for northern Europe. The price is a different story mind
War will end when Iran get tired or run out of weapons. I'd say 4-6 weeks is a more realistic timescale than September
BREAKING: Sky News is a disgrace. It's all about the dopamine. All they want to do is show war porn - rockets and missiles, jets being shot down, ships being sunk, plumes of smoke. I mean the reporters are all talking and providing information but do they have to show the continuous war porn in the background? I gave up Sky News for 10 years, need to stop turning it on. They just love feeding off people's negativity bias to make it compulsive but I imagine it causes a lot of stress and anxiety.
Only a week or more ago {before the war started} we had this
Apparently sinking ships was ok then, but now not so much now when the boot is on the other foot
where I pointed out that starting a regional war by murdering a shipload of sailors would result in misery for the region
And here we are now with just about every country surrounding Iran been attacked by the Iranian regime {even countries sympathetic and whom helped Iran in past}, neutral or not
Yes they do. It's their job to show us this war. I don't watch news stations in general but I make sure to tune in at these times because they show plenty of footage.
And you like seeing things blown up? People die you know. Can I recommend Rambo 1-4 instead?
Did you read about the operation to kill the Ayatollah. I ask because if you did, it would leave you wondering how the US and Israel are not able to say definitely if it was one of their missiles that hit the school or not, rather we are investigating it- what that usually means is; it was ours but we are waiting till the news cycle has moved on before admitting to it.
Yeah, it seems like it is fine under international law for Iran to kill 30,000 of its own people, finance and supply terrorist armies across the region and then bomb 12 other countries who don't have an argument with them.
And all we should do in response is negotiate.
People can't see that the UN doesn't work. It hasn't worked since the 1980s.
It is obvious it was Israel/USA who slaughtered the school children in Iran
We could be at the start of world war 3 historically speaking, probably the biggest event in current affairs since Russia started their little colonial Three Day War 4 years back
With neutral countries being attacked every day, the speed of events is similar to Hitlers adventures in late 30s when week after week war was declared on this or that neighbour of theirs followed by annexations
In fairness the job of the news is to show and tell you what's happening in the world and bring the reality of it to you.
If you don't want to see it, or find it upsetting, tune into the radio instead or a switch to a channel more to your liking. It's not mandatory to watch the news on TV.
Telling someone to go watch Rambo and accusing them of enjoying seeing people die for simply saying they've been intently following the conflict on the news is frankly unhinged.
