yeah jk. Big advocate of the homeopathic remedies and regenerative farming
If one was thinking that route. Then best practice in that scenario is to have all your breeding animals out on the pasture as soon as possible/now. Fields with high ditches. And let them get the wild strain from the midges now well before breeding season.
When breeding season is in, then use your pour ons/fly repellents.
I can understand a farmer being on the fence but if your a vet and knowing that the disease is here already here how can you advise against it. Look at the suffering an animal can go through not to mention the lost milk and pregnancies.
I was at some of the homeopathy conferences over the years. Joe was at the evening meet in Cork a few years back.
I found the remedies a help with colds and flu months back. For the calves last year I gave calc phos in the water a few times. I believe it turned them inside out in condition.
You'd really want to be full time at it or and have really good books as back up for conditions and have probably passed the higher qualifications to be good at it.
If the animals contacted it 5 or 6 months ago, is it not closing the stable door after the horse has bolted?
not disagreeing but I can see why a vet might advise against or is not sure atm ….the vaccine is new and disease is relatively new ,going by what farmers are reporting from the continent the vaccine may cause as much trouble as it’s trying to prevent ….we can take some of the learnings such as not using it once an animal is in calf ….i certainly want to hear more concrete stuff before I use it ….remember schmallenberg a few years ago
There was a vaccine for that …I’ve heard of nothing from either since ,but of resistance to all these things may be of no harm
It would be unusual for a vet to advise against vaccinating. In my experience they tell you to vaccinate for everything and take your money. Are ye all happy you got the untested covid vaccine.
It’s hard to call alright. Is that Irish man farming in France your referring to or is there more saying it. Didn’t he also say some areas there got a right bad doing from the disease.
It’s difficult to decide on what to do about vaccinating. Vets here are strongly advising to vaccinate, but then again like Ginger suggests, they’re great salespeople. It’s important to know that BT hit 2 things really hard, their feet and fertility. We scan every month because ayr calving and we had nothing go in calf for 3-4 months while it was rattling through the herd. That has serious consequences. I have no scientific proof whatsoever that the vaccine harms the calf, only personal experience. Gossip has it that the best way could be to vaccinate when empty, before breeding. At the minute I’m leaning towards that approach. Then there’s the issue that there’s many variants and new variants to come…and the bloody cost!
Fly repellents etc are useless for co
Was this you talking on the ff
Pretty sure vaccines available cover the current strain 3 in Ireland
Our vet told us not to panic vaccinating, said alot being blown out of proportion. He was sick of lads ringing worrying. Uk has had about 240 confirmed cases in the whole country last yr so its not exaclty an epidemic.
Neighbour on my road had a confirmed case recently, think it was an aborted calf that was tested. Running sucklers here so not sure what to do yet, may wait and see. No panic till end of March i suppose
For every one officially confirmed case. There's probably 1000 or 10,000 times the animals after being infected
Ya, I'd say alot of us had it already and didn't even notice...
Is it compulsory to blood test if a cow aborts, like when we had to test for brucellosis?
I think it is if you go over a certain number. I had one and it went down through the slats
I'd say there's a good few not being tested so we dont know the full picture at all
Apparently it's being picked up in the factory rather than cases appearing on farms
I have 4 genomic tags left over from last year, plus this year's supply. I went onto ICBF to get the numbers off the tags to copy and paste into excel worksheets tabs. Last year's 4 are missing from the list. Could this mean that if you dont use up all last years tags you cant use them this year.
quality dairy stock still making big of not crazy money going on green lawn sale sale today ….few lots made over 9 k
The crazy thing is the lads buying them think they will do the same in their herd. Those heifers will get a shock when they leave Curtins. Was there. Thought I might pick up a few. Came away half way through.
Ye I poked my head in for half an hour, everything was making big money. Saw a calf make 2700 I think. Very well presented stock in fairness, wouldn't suit current system here, probably a bit too showy as well, but wouldn't mind milking a herd of them all the same.
Who would be the typical customer there, other pedigree breeders?
in fairness lads buying them would be fairly well up on the breeding and feeding of such stock ,I bought 2 last year and were cracking cows ,already calved back in and both had. Sexed heifers .had a few lots picked out I was interested in but money far too strong
what was the average price in curtins sale today would any one know
a strong 4 k or very near for cows anyway I’d say ,some super stock tbf
What's greenlawn feeding them to get all the milk out of them? Maize I presume. Tricky enough area to be grazing....
Not maize anyway. There was an issue there with maize from GR that had toxins a few years back.
brosna would be be a long way from the golden vale
Ya, no spring rotation planner there. Wonder what the diets are like....
I'd say they're on slightly more than 4kgs...
