https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
Its frequently been said if you don't criticise Israel 24/7 you are supporting Netanyahu.
Honestly will you just leave me alone. Please. I just want to have honest debates with knowledgeable posters. You come across as an angry pest that doesn't want to learn anything from history. And when you are losing an argument, you just make up lies. I don't report people but I might make an exception with you if you don't stop making stuff up about what people think. Live in your repetitive simplistic world, I don't care.
It's not a justification for attack imho, but it's certainly not BS, Iran is all those things and more
Is that really your argument? I didn't expressly condemn, said I don't give a **** about Israel, therefore I'm actually in total support?
Do I have to say it once or do I have to precede every post with it?
I don't support the US or Israel opening a war with Iran. I don't support Israel's actions in Gaza. I am fine with Israel being brought to the ICJ.
I will not be shedding tears for the Iranian regime. I will not shed tears for the US or Israel when Iran hits back, to whatever extent it even can.
Maybe now the discussion can move on.
The Axis of Evil strikes again...
At least one school hit with dozens of children killed.
Before anyone replies, these attacks are disgrace from a regime (be it USA or Israel) using war to distract from domestic issues.
But those claiming that US bases are being hammered were the same who were claiming that Israel is being demolished in the 12 day war. Last time Israel had free reign in the skies, now with massive US support that won't change. That's also the reason why Iran is firing missiles at all surrounding countries blindly.
February, 2026
Also February, 2026
Shame on every single person from Mike Pence, to Tony Blair, from Midwestern MAGA hat wearing housewives to Israeli "settlers", from flag flying podcast hosts to industry journalists and social media and discussion board contributors who have enabled all the participants in this latest black mark on supposed Western leadership.
Iran is throwing everything at them from the start. But if this punch fails, they have little or nothing else in reserve. Speaks volumes of their desperation.
Reports coming through from Tehran that no one had a clue what was coming, not even air raid sirens sounded. No communications from the media or state as to what to do. Seems to be a total blackout.
There is a strong possibility that Khamemini has been killed.
Source?
Would absolutely kill you to criticize Israel, wouldn’t it?
The bomb came from Israel.
Average Iranians seem pleased. Seems the first round of attacks directly targeted the regime, state and intelligence services, rather than the military. Given that you have seen the regime slaughter thousands if not tens of thousands of your fellow countrymen for the audacity of protesting, I guess there are many happy Iranians out there.
What is the source that they hit a school and that many children are dead? Or are you spreading fake news?
Difficult to see any bone crushing sanctions coming soon. If after two and a half years of an attempted live streamed extermination of a city of 2 million people and forced mass starvation does not do it, i doubt this will unfortunately. Maybe if they drop a few atomic bombs on 95 million people they might wave a finger in condemnation though.
It's unreal really, not even an avocado sanctioned or a banning from Eurovision and the Olympics yet.
This seems like a new level dumb.
And the US has had some very dumb adventures.
They will not affect regime change, they will further destabilize things, it will cost them a few billion and more political capital.
The recent words of an Irish patriot (Bernadette Devlin) to Venezualans cheering Trump should be considered.
"You'll live long enough to regret your flag waving and cheering for Trump".
so much moaning about sanctions
Are Russians really that butthurt about sanctions which they simultaneously tell us don’t hurt em? That it has to be brought up in every second post
Sanctions either work or they don’t, which one is it, make up your mind
Maybe they are just painted dolls and not dead children. That’s what official Israeli accounts claimed about the first children killed by Israeli bombs in Gaza and was repeated by Israeli fanboys here.
She is a bit of a loon, that one.
So no sources?
Doesn't surprise me you're not fond of her.
She is an extremist. Have a look at her wiki pages. For example, she believes in Abortion on demand up to birth.
With US airpower, its no wonder Iran is letting it all go out early.
And dont forget:
I would love to see the regime overthrown in Iran. Religious leaders running a country using terror is beyond ludicrous in 2026. It's an awful pity that people power didn't overthrow the regime earlier this year in their bloody uprising because a regime change facilitated by Israel/US will be far more complex that an Iranian-only instigated regime change. Iran has a long history of foreign intervention (Britain, Russia, USA) and that shapes political psychology today. Many Iranians are strongly nationalist and foreign backed regime change (especially by Israel!) could have a stigma. There will be a political vacuum if the regime falls and I am sure there will be many "factions" that want to take power. A successor authority could be tainted by association - puppet of USA, proxy of Israel etc. Perception is often crucial. That foreign narrative would be very useful to the hardliners in the old regime (e.g. Revolutionary Guard). Any successor government will face legitimacy problems inside Iran and holding power could be difficult. Iran is also a huge diverse country so there is a massive risk of fragmentation with relgional, ethnic, religious and political fault lines.
There are historical parrallels. Most recently Iraq's government struggled very badly after 2003 with legitimacy after the US led overthrow. Afghanistan after 2001 had persistent legitimacy problems tied to foreign backing.
But surely you have a source for the claim that a bomb hit a school killed dozens of dead children? Anyway, its clear now you are spreading lies and disinformation.
For attacking Iran?
BBC reporting death toll of 52 now.
BBC reporting that Iran is reporting that death toll.
May well be true but it hasn't been confirmed by anyone.
