Possibly a thread elsewhere already but
Temple Bar has always been overpriced but €9 for a pint is pretty insane.
Roughly 90 pints per keg × 9 = 1800 per keg they must be making a pretty penny. I know rents, insurance, staff etc
Locally i paid €4.90 for a pint of Birra Moretti
So would or do you pay €9 a pint..
While I respect that €2 per pint is mind-boggling value in Ireland right now, it simply isn't a sustainable price for any pub to offer as a norm. However, the current averages €6+ per pint are not sustainable for a decent swathe of customers who would normally be pub-goers. The offering needs to be €4 to €5 a pint to encourage customers back.
A pub with decreasing amounts of customers and increasing prices is a slow-motion kamikaze effect. People go out, by and large, for at least moderately busy social scenes and the buzz that goes with it. Almost empty pubs will repel customers who go from pub to pub. If people encounter more and more pubs that are almost empty and lacking atmosphere, they're less inclined to go out the next night.
In effect, it's a death spiral - which is where we are at with the vast majority of pubs in the country. A few city-centre places will hang in there as they have huge footfall.
I agree but I can tell you I’ve just been in a suburban pub paying €6.70 a pint of Guinness but I was unaware I could’ve saved 60c a pint by buying beamish (which I would’ve) because it want advertised. This is in suburbia.
Not surprising. The government need to go further to compel publicans to display their prices at the tap (similar to forecourts displaying their prices) to encourage competition in the on-trade market.
There's not many a drinker will go into a pub and ask the barman the price for every pint of lager or stout or ale they offer (especially if the bar is busy - see this as a funny example: The Sweet Shop - D'Unbelievables) so they can save coin and thus encourage real competition.
The current method of putting an A4 poster beside the front door listing prices isn't enough - and it isn't enforced. Are those average prices, the cheapest options, the most expensive ones (doubt it) or prices that are well out of date?
No enforcement at all and despite the Irish drinker being crucified for excise duty on his/her pint, there is feck all regulation. It just allows the breweries to make a mockery of it all.
yep absolutely agreed. if I had have know the price i would’ve saved myself 5x 60c=€3 and I would've been a smug fucker.
That's what needs to happen. But publicans themselves are not helping their own cause by not letting their customer know that there is better value to be had. Are they afraid that their customer will turn around and snark back saying - do you think I can't afford the extra 50c per pint for a Guinness over a Beamish?
That's probably valid too.
Compel the pubs to display price-at-the-tap and that removes that potential issue.
Was in Helen's Bar on the Beara Peninsula at the weekend, €4.50 a pint for Beamish, Murphy's and Guinness. Murphy's is waaaay nicer than that brit Guinness stuff.
Wish other places would do the same
That pub has previously announced (then deleted the announcement) an illegal - and huge - credit or debit card surcharge of 50c/pint. So gimmicks and gouging is something they are well able to do.
A customer frisked my friend in the Lark Inn.
He suspected we were police.
Haha whut!?
Was in the Lark during the year. Don't recall paying 5.50 for pints with a card.
And even if I did, I'd still be happy.
I have been in the Lark a few times and it's a great pub with fantastic locals. I always paid the same with cash or card.
There ya go.
I drink Poretti here because it's the best saving but I'd rather pay up to €7 for a good IPA.
"Brit Guinness stuff" 🙄 how childish. It's brewed in Dublin as you well know.
Do you say "that Brit Jameson stuff" too? because John Jameson was a Scot?
Clearly graphic design is their passion…
Where is The Brogue?
Well, that's illegal unless they open at 7pm.
Unless they're actually cheaper before 7…
It isn't that uncommon for smaller town pubs to only open around then, often there'll be a subset of pubs that open for the racing crowd, and any others that do food may open for lunch / will be open for dinner. But they aren't that likely to print fancy posters!
They only open at 7 during the week.
Double post.
🤣 I know. They love doing them. They had big ones all over the place for the rugby last week with Bundi Aki front and centre.
Tuam.
I happen not to like Diagio, a British company. You're also entitled to your own opinion. You may disagree with mine, but you don't have to be a tw*t about it.
It's still nonsense. The mega-brewers and distillers are all global companies, where their HQ happens to be registered is all but irrelevant. Guinness is brewed in Dublin, callling it British is both childish and incorrect.
BTW quite a few very large US multinationals moved their global HQ to Ireland in recent years for tax reasons. Doesn't make them "Irish" companies in any real sense.
And your Murphys and Beamish that you rather is Dutch if Guinness is British to you because of Diagio.
And again, make your point but you don't have to be a dick about it. Each to their own, I suppose.
Is it ok with you that I prefer the taste anyway???
They can't keep up with demand for Guinness in the UK apparently, no chance of a price cut anytime soon. https://archive.ph/I6Mc1
With the struggle of Diageo and Guinness being their crown jewel, they're going to milk it until they can't. Price increases every year at minimum, twice a year wouldn't suprise me.
The price, sadly is a reason I don't go out as much anymore. I'd pay it, my friends won't so they lose out both people willing to pay it and not as I'm not going out solo.
I drink at home and buy Aldi knock offs as the alternative.
Dave Lewis turned around Tesco by cutting prices and properly competing with the discounters. I expect the same with Diageo, the current demand for Guinness is just a fad, he knows he can't alienate the core Guinness drinkers. Also Diageo has other brands like Carlsberg, even if they don't cut Guinness prices, they need to compete on lagers where Heineken is still the dominant one. He knows they can't keep raising prices, in Irelands case the government takes most of the price rises anyway so its not sustainable.
Diageo licence Carlsberg in one solitary market - Ireland. Carlsberg are a major rival in other territories, and have entered the Irish soft drinks market by buying Britvic (Club Orange etc), so we could see them take that (and Tuborg) back in time.
Diageo just do their own owned brands outside of Ireland. They have a pile of lagers - Harp, Hophouse, Rockshore, Satzenbrau - but you'll rarely see any Diageo products beyond Guinness, Kilkenny and maybe Hophouse abroad.
The Irish domestic market is not the be all and end all for them, basically. They have even considered selling it off recently.
I don't normally drink Guinness but had a nice €5 pint in a place just off Grafton St in Dublin last Friday. They have a chalkboard outside advertising €5 pints all day every day. Place was packed with Dubliners and every single person bar one or two having a glass of wine was on the stout.
