ItIt is a Better Tomorrow alright (do we think the ad guys know its the name of a series of violent Hong King crime movies?)
Does this mean the bin surrounds didn’t work after all? Shocker!
So now, on top of an extra fleet of lorries servicing the RVMs, councils get to rack up additional mileage cleaning up the mess created by bin scavenging.
The ever‑expanding Re‑Turn carbon footprint marches on in the name of a “better tomorrow.”
Still cannot argue though, despite the mess at bins there are a lot less cans and plastic bottle waste on the streets
But the point is it's being replaced by other rubbish, bottles and cans only up make up 1% to 3% of overall litter.
If the bins are being damaged, they are out of service until they are either replaced or fixed, which given our Councils will be a long wait or not at all.
Why don't we just disband the scam and pay marginalised people to collect rubbish.
There is no need for a bloated mess costings millions then.
I raised this point before the scheme started, saw exactly this in Germany - their street cleaners are out at dawn to clear up all the rubbish pulled out of bins overnight, same as our councils now have to do here.
This was easily forseeable, even if it was not occuring in established DRS countries there is essentially free money in the bins, of course they're gonna be rifled through.
I agree, the DRS scheme should be making a contribution to the councils for the additional clean up works that is now put on them.
Still cannot argue though, despite the mess at bins there are a lot less cans and plastic bottle waste on the streets, just go to UK and you will soon start to notice the difference, seeing a lot more glass bottle waste around now and surely that is worse than plastic.
Aubrey McCarthy, an independent Senator and founder of the Tiglin charity that provides social care services to marginalised people, said the language used by the Dublin City Council chief executive was “horrible” and “all wrong”.
McCarthy said people visit Tiglin’s city cenrre Lighthouse Café most evenings with bags of bottles they have collected. He said that for many marginalised people, this is the only way of “getting a few quid”.
Imagined being offended by a word but not a scam that has baked into it that marginalised people will collect rubbish.
Had the "pleasure" of using a RVM in a M&S store yesterday. Model I'd never seen before, can't remember the brand but it wasn't one of the two you see everywhere (Tomra, RVM Systems)
I can tell why you don't see them much. Threw a fit about having two things on the belt unless the previous item had actually been pushed in to the vault by a flipper. Repeatedly claimed cans were the wrong material, but would take them on a second or third go, claimed that barcodes were invalid (rather than just not read), but would read them on a second or third go.
Junk. Should probably be decertified to stop any other stores buying them by mistake.
Coming in November.
They should be everywhere by now.
the cost has been pushed onto the consumer. funny I was in Spain recently, no drs there.
Wasn't this scheme being lauded for litter reduction? Polluter pays? Nope.
Will Re-turn compensate councils out of the tens of millions of euros they are sitting on?
(Dublin) city now has to bear the additional cost of between €500,000 and €1m annually for more clean-ups as a result of the Re-turn scheme.
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/dublin/dublin-news/bin-scavengers-in-search-of-re-turn-bottles-are-leaving-dublin-like-a-bomb-site-says-council-chief-richard-shakespeare/a750915016.html
The new Lidl in Killorglin got one but the new Lidl in Listowel didn't. They opened within a few weeks of each other.
Not sure what the logic there is.
Lidl Maynooth also has one.
One in Mullingar and another in Roscommon also.
There's a map on the Re-turn site where you can enter your Eircode to find one near you.
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Are there any more of the bulk machines going in? I know there's one in Dublin somewhere and one in Cork somewhere.
It's up to you to find out before sticking your oar in if you don't know what I'm talking about. I'm happy with the result 🍻.
You quoted 2 posts thanking posters for tips on how to remove labels blocking the deposit bar code to get the "reward". Sounds like the reward is getting the deposit back. Is it something else?
If you want to clarify what you were trying to say, go ahead, It's not up to me.
The post I responded to is pretty clear.
A bit further up.
I find that when getting labels off jam jars that the best method is to soak the jar for a couple of hours.
They usually slide off easily enough and any residue cleans off with a bit of white spirit.
Worth a try with the cans.
Cheers guys, I know. As I say, the reward is worth the effort 😁.
Maybe try reading instead of facepalming.
Cheers guys, I know. As I say, the reward is worth the effort
Transformation to Human Hamster is complete.
But again, it's your own money, it's not a reward.
I suspect glass is going to be added here in the medium term due to EU reusable container rules, which is going to cause uproar from retailers with still relatively new RVMs that, generally, can't have it added - they need to be big enough to have a second chamber.
Glass capable RVMs drop the glass in to a chamber where it can be sorted for actual re-use; it isn't broken for recycling. They are inherently larger.
The court case in Scotland seems to be at an end. A sorry saga.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g3l1qn3pwo
The UK plans appear to be progressing towards the introduction of DRS in October 2027. A couple of references to Ireland in the document. Wales is out of step with the rest with their intention to include glass.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10453/
The House of Lords secondary legislation committee scrutinised the draft Deposit Scheme for Drinks Containers (England and Northern Ireland) Regulations 2024, in its December 2024 report. The committee asked the government to respond to the exclusion of glass. The government said that excluding glass was due to cost, complexity and consumer burden issues. For example, many retailers would need to increase shop storage space or retrofit to accommodate the larger reverse vending machines needed for glass. As a result, the up-front investment required from industry would increase. The government also noted that including glass would also lead to divergence of scope on the island of Ireland since the Republic of Ireland’s DRS does also not include glass.
It's not just you.
Actually it's more a case of Dxhound never ever having a problem with machines and finds the entire system perfectly user-friendly and hassle free.
Funny that.
I'd say you're right.
It would only work with the barcode on the aluminium.
That probably wouldn't be a runner for the likes of Wicklow Wolf (in the pic) and other craft beers that use stuck-on labels which possibly could come off if soaked in hot water.
You're right.
If you paid a deposit on them go back to the shop and look for a refund.
If not it's the recycling bin or the can bin at a bottle bank.
These are two of the cans. They both have the Re-Turn logo printed onto them at source.
They're not in the Re-Turn system.
Did you check the barcode ?
Recycling bin, I hope?
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I'm sure it's been asked before, but what happens if the machine says certain cans are not accepted? I have some soft drinks (Eastern European brand) and Carling cans from someone who brought them with them over Christmas. They all have the Re-Turn logo printed on them, but the machine doesn't recognise them.
Both the Carling and soft drinks cans in question have the Re-Turn logo included as part of their factory printing. I guess I'll just bin them.
