Irish insurers make it up as they go along, they'll likely add a loading for having FSD on the car
This applies to almost all EU countries. Ireland is the odd one out.
When I bought a Model 3 back in 2021, my that time insurer got totally freaked out. They stated that if I drove the car without a driver the excess would be 4000.
They were not very well informed about the actual capabilities of the basic AP which were more restricted than the previous Nissan with propilot :-)
New York insurer Lemonade are giving a rebate for mile driven on FSD because it is safer:
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/lemonade-halve-tesla-insurance-rates-miles-driven-with-software-assistant-2026-01-21/
But the cynic in me thinks the real reason is because you have to share your telemetry. They will know absolutely everything about you as a driver and its not all good.
Irish insurers run policies with in car telemetry, it's up to you if you want to chase a cheaper premium
Given the price point it might sell at, that’s going to be some pretty incredible depreciation for 11,000km. The price on these LHD in 2023 started at 120,990€
I paid £63k when I bought mine in 2019. The previous owner paid north of £100k less than 18 months earlier. They're a great car but the first-owner depreciation is (like most cars in that bracket) horrendous.
totally. Looks like this won’t be any different. There’s potentially €60,000 depreciation across 1 or 2 owners for just 11,000km in 30 months
Audi Q8 etron esq…. the model x wouldnt be as bad if it wasnt LHD.
Unsupervised FSD in Austin at last.
Wen in Ireland?
https://x.com/Tsla99T/status/2014392609028923782?s=20
Unsupervised? 2032
and that would be ambitious; taxi’s only obviously.
there’s a monumental difference between a Waymo in some select Irish cities, and all new cars actively being sold with unsupervised driving (notwithstanding the assumed high price of FSD as an option in the first place).
Tesla I'm thinking are starting an exponential release of autonomous robotaxi. It starts small, a few carefully monitored autonmous cars - that's what is currently happening. As confidence grows, and more of the 0.00***00001% edge cases get erased, the release more autonomous. Exponential always looks like nothing until it is suddenly massive.
2040. No joke.
Have they gotten rid of the tailing car as well?
given everything Musk does and says is BS then I wouldn’t be putting much faith in that. I had read somewhere the earliest they could do it is mid summer due to the timeline for licensing in Texas and Austin specifically.
The tech seems to be shite anyway compared to the radar gold standard, the camera only approach would’nt pass a driving eye test according to someone who knows a bit about this area:
https://www.torquenews.com/17995/blind-leading-blind-why-john-krafcik-right-about-teslas-dangerous-vision-only-myopia-and
The ex CEO of waymo will hardly be impartial
I wonder was he stopped in the middle of a crossroads with all his lidars and radars when he wrote that article?
Just look at how all the panicked 2023 chatter around the loss of parking sensors completely died as Tesla owners appreciate their TeslaVision parking assistance system.
(Not that you should need anything of course, but it is excellent).
FSD is making solid progress. Every month someone is bitching about it they make a small step forward without shouting about it. It's an inevitable progress, while it may be behind schedule, that is churning slowly but relentlessly towards its goal.
I've repeated we will not see this here before 2030.
I do think we'll get something in the 30's but full self driving level 5 without the requirement for a driver to have a licence or insurance? Not sure.
The problem is the end of the 30's is 15 years hence. If we tried to predict 2025 in 2010 would we have guessed the proliferation of AI, how 'mandatory' smartphones have become, the idea of leaving the house without your wallet and without cash yet spending 1k on a TV? Or even simpler, the exponential rise of bitcoin? Doubt it. No one knows the future (if they do can you kindly and quietly share the euromillions numbers with me)
No. Still has a tailing car, so not unsupervised currently.
Ok, hadn't seen anything about the tailing car and wanted to check. Wasn't it reported at the start that the tailing car is able to control the car somehow?
Neigh I say, Neigh!!! - Neigh sayers.
"Its not autonomous - there's a trailing car" - I think this is to 'supervise' but the car is driving autonomously.
A tweet from Musk in the last few days that they are expecting EU approval in the next month, which is a shhort timeline, even if it ends up being 3 months.
Musk is referring to the decision from the RDW on FSD supervised beta, which is due next month. If they approve, FSD could technically be adopted immediately by all EU countries and Tesla could switch the software on that same day and around 150,000 - 200,000 Teslas in the EU could be fully self driving (with the driver still responsible). Weeks from now. Not months or years.
Best case scenario of course. If RDW rejects it, I have no idea what the next realistic scenario is, but to me that would be a huge disappointment
If rejected it would also send an f'u message to a large number of Tesla owners in the EU.
Got to ask the question to those that love the S...
Why not get the left hand drive version? If quality and tech is superior to the latest 3 and Y versions...
Would the main reason be that it would be too much of a pain to sell it on when there better choice? Or multiple other reasons along with it?
I wouldn’t drive a LHD car in this country myself. Everything is centered to RHD platform. Tolls, parking kiosk etc
Then there’s the resale…….
You could turn that around. If it was just me driving (not the missus) and I could get a car for half the price just because it was LHD, I would. Tolls are all automatic but yeah parking is an issue. That's why the Teslas came with this instrument for free. I kid you not.
Tech is the same as previous gen 3s & Ys (HW3 platform). Quality is arguably better, but that's subjective in many ways.
The Model 3 Highland is a bloody good car. The fact it's pretty affordable is crazy.
only in the U.S. for now but:
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