His original excuse was using irish genetics destroyed the herd and he couldnt get the yields, plus the polish parlour workers were never up to scratch, he then got the robots in and bought-in 100's of thousand of euros worth of fancy cows, that didnt work out either and he pulled the pin...
He burnt through some money at the above, hadnt a good word to say about the robots either from memory
I use to follow him on twitter. You knew it wasn't to be taken seriously as a commercial farm when they spent a couple of hundred thousand on an underpass and the next year fully housed the cows
i wouldn't test till i have to fair chance you could fail thing to do with the calves is have them in good order and they will be farmers interested and they will make as much the calves that can be exported id even say that the exporters have some way round getting them calves exported
You have to test every 6 months after you get two clear 60 day interval tests, in my situation, i had to test in september after getting a second clear test in february, and im meant to test again in March but ill be putting it off to may if i can, in my case i was restricted from any movements in aug for a few weeks as i had went past the 6 month interval...
You have to pay then for the test aswell for breaching the 6 month rule
Not up on the export but that wouldn't be surprising if there able to work around it.
I spoke to him a few years ago when I was thinking about robots. I remember asking why he went Delaval instead of lely. He said the deal was done with lely and then he said they were walking around the yard like they owned the place. He ran them and gave Delaval the shout. I dont know a whole pile about Delaval robots, heard 3rd hand a places that weren't happy with them. Iv no evidence to back that up. Someone tried to explain to me that preselection doesn't work for indoor herds. Can't remember the reasoning behind that theory.
Well if i was putting in robots id give lely the run of the place to get them working id rather have doing that than not caring anyway if cows are housed full time robots are a no brainer
I think the newer Delaval robots are grand but they're was a lot of issues with the older models know of two yards where they were taken out..... one lad got out was a new entrant. other farmers got a Delaval parlour fitted. Do font know what the deal was but they were bought up by Delaval
I often wondered what the story was with all those robots that get thrown out, does the farmer take a massive loss?
I'm assuming that they only sell new ones here (?) and that the 2nd hand ones are offloaded out to the continent where there's a well developed market and support infrastructure around them?
There's plenty places where people seem very haply with them too.
yes the farmer takes a big hit on them
the local Putin is taking out 6 lely robots and putting in an rotary parlour. Gave €2 million for 100 acres just before Christmas and the workers had to wait for 3 weeks for wages to come over the Xmas. He won’t employ Irish.
How's your robot going? What's the back up service like?
He's exactly the type of cut-throat businessman that "the industry" loves!
Get the IFJ around there quick for an interview and pictures to educate the rest of us slow-learners.
I'd live to know where the financing is coming from
Outside money in most cases, local digger man here done roadways/parlour/reclamination foundations etc for a chap, on a greenfield site conversion, that was recently purchased land, and it was been bank-rolled by the aboves father in-law who is in the quarrying business...
They"re will be well over 4 million plus spent in the case before its completed, was doing a job here mid summer and i said it was approaching 6 figures for work he had done on this project
Going well atm. Cable had to be replaced before Christmas. Back up is good tbf. If I was in trouble normally you'd have someone in a couple of hours.
There seems to be a good market for 2nd hand lely robots in Ireland. The older Delaval are very hard to sell apparently.
There has to be a big hit on anything that gets thrown out. If a parlour went in and for whatever reason was no longer wanted there'd be a big hit on it aswell
Last year at the start the calves here couldn’t go for export for the same reason. They seemed to end up making the exact same money as everyone else’s calves that were able to go for export. We’d never be keeping them a long time, it’s not that they’d of been great versus anyone else’s or anything.
Wet day here and nothing calving so I'm catching up on admin, phone calls etc.
Does anyone have a recommendation for cubicle auto-scrapers in the south-east of the country?
I thought you were not going to spend any money this year 🤔
Cubicle autoscraper. Is that another word for a wife
If you're starting from the point of no agent I'd just ring the scraper company I'm interested in and they'll provide you with the most local one
You might pick up a second hand one on done deal
Absolutely 💯 unnecessary discretionary spending....... go stand in the corner 😬😁
Rope or ratchet ?
I’m only looking for a few prices at the moment and trying to figure out the cost to stay in the game.
I spoke to the local FRS an hour ago. No price mentioned but he was very much pushing the rope system. I’ve 2 spans beside each other and fairly short distances - one is 20m and the other is 24m from the back to the feed barrier including the 14-6 slat.
I know the pros of the rope system after talking to him but are there any major cons?
In my experience the Dairypower ratchet system with analogue control unit is the most trouble free if you're not trying to do anything fancy like putting a backing gate on it at some stage. I would have thought rope systems were more for longer runs?
Rope is for longer runs and less passage ways. The pully wheels would want to be greased once a month at least, rope scrapers work best if there is a tank at either end.
Ratchet scrapers are more common if the passage ways are short but theres a couple of them. Gave the last while looking into them, the dairy power are the best. Simple to maintain and last a long time. Alfco are ok but the tongue on scraper that works on the track is fond of wearing or breaking after a few years.
Maintenance cost is serious if rope needs replacing. Especially on long runs. Pulleys need greasing weekly too or your into substantial expense too. Overall a more positive experience than their hydraulic counterparts in another shed though
I don't like dairy power rachet ones anyway they cause a world of trouble i presume he's talking about alfco rope ones I've dairy master here for 35, 20, and 10 years storth once upon a time were the bees knees.
Sometimes you can get a second hand analog box with new. Track and saddle
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