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David Lynch gives good updates, not sure of anything untoward with him.
The Late Challenge Podcast is quite good too.
After a while they all got kinda repetitive though as there is only so much people can talk about and they have started putting the good stuff behind paywalls. Which I guess is fair enough as for some it’s their full time job
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It's a little sad/disappointing/appropriate adjective to see Semenyo score in the first half hour of his City debut whereas we have had Isak and Wirtz for 6 months and they only have 3 each.
semenyo looks a class act tonight some signing for city
It’s a real shame we arnt as an enticing proposition as we were at the start of the season , could have been in Anfield
Was it not that Liverpool cooled their interest in him ,rather than him turning us down?
This is a mad stat
It's a Mickey mouse competition and if Slot continues to play our best players it will hurt our chances of doing well in Europe this season and qualifying for Europe next season.
He should be playing the kids in it.
Errant nonsense. The FA Cup is still a great competition. Our inability to defend competently will damage our chances of doing well in Europe. We've played strong sides against teams like Galatasary and PSV and still come out the wrong end of the result. We haven't one genuine excuse not to have a go at the FA Cup this season.
Alisson, Gravenberch, Konaté, Ekitike, Kerkez and Wirtz would all be considered first choice by Slot and all were rested last night
This idea that we played our best XI is nonsense that's half the team
On any other season he might have but this season he cannot. We have lost too many games and it’s a real shot at winning a trophy.
We absolutely played a strong team.
The valid complaint is really about 2.or 3 players who could have gotten minutes instead.
It took us too long to score the 3rd goal. If we had scored earlier i think he would have made some changes.
I think the fringe players and some youth players might not be good enough.
Well then prepare to be really sad/disappointed/appropriate adjective when I inform you that actually wasn't his debut. He got a goal AND as assist on his debut for them on saturday! 🤣 He already has 3 goal contributions in his first 4 days at the club
I miss Nunez. I have a feeling he was a source of a lot of positivity off the pitch, when he wasn't on it
Yea seymenyo looks a beast, big, strong, fast, eye for goal, pity we didn't nab him before city......when are they gonna charge them feckers over the 116 charges???
Also we need midfielders like tonali, joelinton or guitamaries, big strong hard men in middle of the park, our midfield are too nice
Yeah it's possible that they are not good enough.
But there's been plenty of youth & fringe players that have featured for the Liverpool first team in the past, but were at least given a chance to prove themselves first. In hindsight some players like Clark, McConnell, Gordon etc are probably not good enough for Liverpool, or probably even PL level football. And maybe even Danns too.
They all had such a prominent run in the first team under Klopp to kick start their careers, albeit mostly in the cups but they all played league games too.
The big picture was 'Klopp's kids' win the league cup and the image of all the academy players with the trophy was brilliant.
But the biggest win of that League Cup final, and the previous cup runs over a number of years was that Liverpool could go all over the country hoovering up the best underage talent and show to them that if you sign for Liverpool at 15, then you will play for the Liverpool first team as there is a clear pathway and we develop players for first team football. Ayman, Wright, Nyoni & Rio were signed on the back of this amongst some fierce competition from the likes of Man City & Chelsea. Rio left Chelsea for Liverpool because of this pathway.
These kids saw McConnell, Clark, Gordon even Kelleher moving to Liverpool at 15 and eventually playing for the first team.
That has all been undone now. The same level of player at underage level are looking to leave Liverpool instead because they are not being given a pathway. They are not even been given a token place on the bench in a cup game.
I do agree that it should be clear there's always a pathway, but I really don't think we can say that's been undone, when Rio and Nyoni are regulars in the squad now at 17 and 18, especially with Rio having been given time at only 16. And many of the better youth players are out on loan at the moment… there aren't too many academy lads pushing for those spots right now. I know some crazy people are looking for Joshua Abe to play (even saw someone on here saying it!), but the kid's fücking 15 like… he's not even playing in Premier League 2 yet… he's barely even playing for the U18s!
A few of them got nasty injuries too so I wouldn’t be lauding the fact that Klopp got the kids playing such intense games without repercussions. Slot did mention the overtraining…
the romantic in us loves to see the u18 or u21 doing well…it’s wonderful. But when the club is in a fragile state it’s better not to risk it.
When we were LIVERPOOL it makes sense. At the moment we are LiVeRpOoL so sensible heads must prevail
What?
Grav, Ekitike, Wirtz and Konate were not rested on Monday.
Konate looked like he picked up a nasty injury at the end.
Conversely Ekitike has 12 goals for us while Marmoush has 9 goals for City (1 since May) and he was signed last January.
City are always going to have instant hits, they get infinite bites at the cherry and poorly spent money doesn't slow them down.
When we buy a player like Nunez we have to play him and try to make it work for years, City are already replacing the players they spent hundreds of millions on last January.
The FA Cup is a mickey mouse competition? I've heard it all now. I'd love us to win it any year.
A Club gets £2m for winning the FA Cup - about the same as for winning a group match in the CL.
PSG got about €140m last year from the Champions League. That doesn't even take into account the additional merchandising and sponsorship money opportunities that the CL opens up for a Club.
It's almost impossible to overstate how important participation in the Champions League is for a club like Liverpool not just from a financial perspective but from being able to attract the right caliber of player to the Club. You can have a look at what's happening at Man Utd to see how regularly missing out on CL football can impact even on a behemoth club like that.
If you want to get all misty-eyed about the romance and history of the FA Cup please go ahead but be aware the potential cost of that view.
This team won the title last year while making it to the League Cup final, if Slot has to throw the FA Cup in order to fight for a top 5 finish this year then he's not the man for the job.
CL qualification and some good domestic cup runs is a pretty low bar as is.
Maybe it is a coincidence but a good few of our youngsters seem to be permanently injured,Kaide Gordon,Jayden Danns and Bajectic to name just three,I also see that McConnell returned from his unsuccessful loan at Ajax injured. I was reading an article lately that the demands of first team football these days is so physical that youngsters bodies are not able for the rigours of first team football and it could do long term damage to their careers if they play regularly.
Even look at Bradley since he broke into the first team and the amount of injuries he has picked up.
Heavy metal football, while entertaining, is not without its consequences.
We don't play heavy metal football anymore, it's more akin to elevator music now
Owen Beck is back from his loan with injury as well. And we sold Ben Doak in the summer, but he’s been out with a long term injury since November too.
Nearly all of that promising clutch of players have had significant problems.
What are we too good for the FA cup now? Alonso just got the sack after losing a 4-team competition for which the winner earned €600k more than the runner-up. Some things are more important than a spreadsheet. It's pure entitlement I'm sorry. Given where things have gone in the league we should absolutely be trying to win the FA cup. In any case Slot made 6 changes, Jesus. Like he changed over half the team, and then subbed on when it wasn't going as well as expected. If we were winning 3-0 then he prob would have put on the reserves, but we weren't. Klopp won 2 big trophies in 8 1/2 seasons (CL and PL), the other 6 were all lesser trophies, however every one was a huge celebration for the fans.
I think we likely have very high likelihood at finishing in the champions' league spots, and we're probably not gonna finish top of the league so it literally doesn't really matter if we finish second or probably 5th from a financial perspective.
With the way we're playing this season we'll be lucky to win the FA Cup.
We're not in a position to turn our noses up at it.
More like chalk on a blackboard….
