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Orange is the new Burke

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Who's working? There's a few of them have been sacked for inappropriate behaviour and there's at least one younger one who can't qualify as a barrister



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,098 ✭✭✭chooseusername




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Thanks. This was my favourite bit:

    She gained access to the press conference by purporting to be a journalist with The Western News, which is a Galway-based newspaper that ceased publication in 1926. She does not appear to have published any work in any national or regional titles since then, but has streamed some of her reports on social media



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,039 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It doesn't make sense to me.

    Nothing in relation to the Burkes makes sense.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,093 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Any idea how he’s spending his days in prison? Did I read before that he was helping people with reading etc or did I imagine that?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,223 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Id genuinely believe he’s doing some good work in there. I suspect he was a very good and conscientious teacher unfortunately he’s chucked it all away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,457 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    By all accounts he was good at his job. And if he hadn't gone shouting at the principal he'd probably still be there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,223 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    I’d wonder does he ever think to himself ‘possibly could have handled that better’



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 46,316 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Better in what way?
    Was the intent to create a fuss over his family's opposition to gender stuff or just him airing his bigoted views? I suspect the former given the how his sister (with help from his mother) decided to end her successful legal career.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,093 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    I don’t think that concept exists in that family - I don’t think they actually have the capacity to reflect and learn from their mistakes. They’re driven by whatever tenets were put in place in their upbringing which was essentially a cult like existence - in their minds they are always “right”.
    They have no capacity for forgiveness, or admitting fault - that’s where we see the chinks in their armour - their “righteousness” is blinding their ability to think logically and rationally as a normal human would do.

    I’m reminded of the expression “if they had brains they’d be dangerous”- they’re the opposite- they all have serious levels of academic intelligence - but, if they didn’t have this self righteous characteristic that impedes them in real life they’d all still be doing the jobs they loved making plenty of money.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,223 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    I was being facetious. Though I do think it’s likely he has regrets at chucking his life away but in for a penny



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,728 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I think he genuinely thinks he's the wronged party here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,039 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    A conscientious teacher would not prioritise their own whims ahead of the wellbeing of a pupil.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    He's to be released

    Brian Cregan has authorised it

    Enoch Burke to be released from prison, judge orders



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,221 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    This is clearly being done so he can be put back in again, and have that used to show his appeal is to frustrate the process and not genuine.

    He'll be at the school tomorrow and back in Mountjoy on Friday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    I hope so



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,896 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    IMG_2116.jpeg

    Substantive and credible issues.

    That’s ruined a few breakfasts here 😂.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    I figure this will play out like Ammi’s appeal case. It’ll just be thrown out due to their constant disrespect and frustration of the Court process regardless of any valid point that they might have.
    That’ll be the end of his appeals against the appeal board and he’ll be dismissed by them/Wilsons and his salary will finally end.
    But that won’t be the end of it, of course. They’ll find another way to litigate this. Wilson’s will be celebrating their 300th anniversary before this is over.
    Enoch will be back in the Joy before the week is out.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,924 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Not particularly. If Burke can actually prove his issues against the DAP, the most likely result would be a different panel deciding on the case and more than likely coming to the exact same outcome; Burke is a f*cking loon who was rightfully suspended and should be fired on the basis of all his subsequent actions following his suspension.

    Then Burke will raise the same objections to the judge about this new panel, and round and round we go again until a judge finally says that they gave enough leeway to Burke and his objections as was reasonable, and there's no reason to drag it on any further.

    What is happening now, is pretty much entirely expected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,098 ✭✭✭chooseusername


    He could just turn up outside the gate and not trespass, which would be interesting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,896 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    The court has finally recognised the “substantive and credible” issues so I’d think they’ll play the game a bit better now.

    That it took shouting and screaming and ignoring court orders to finally have a judge accept that there are, it seems, major issues to be considered, should be the headline story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,727 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Mod - another trolling post like this will lead to a lengthy ban so have a think before you post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,221 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    If there hadn't been been shouting, screaming and ignoring court orders, substantive issues could and would have been dealt with three years ago.

    Burke has caused the delays. Burke has caused himself to be in prison for hundreds of days. Burke has destroyed his career. Not the courts, not anyone else - just him. And maybe his Mammy.

    Also, and most importantly - an issue being substantive and credible doesn't mean Burkes arguments are true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    This comment by Justice Cregan summarises the situation EB has created for himself…

    Mr Justice Cregan said: "Mr Burke, your ability to shoot yourself in the foot is unparalleled, in my experience." after EB said the court had made an outstanding U-turn and accused it of hypocrisy by choosing to release him from prison.

    Edit: As a matter of course, Justice Cregan has given him the opportunity to hold meetings with lawyers on the substantive" and "credible" issues EB has raised about the panel following his release from prison. He's hardly likely to be sitting down with lawyers outside the WHS gates discussing how to make a case against the panel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,706 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    he’s let on on grounds that he stays away from the school.

    First thing he says is he’ll be showing up for work tomorrow morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    He needs to start aiming for his head and put everyone out of their misery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,446 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Given another opportunity again... And the first thing he says is that he'll be back at the school gates tomorrow... Honestly, this lad.

    If he was genuinely serious about the supposed issues this could have all been trashed out and aired in court over the last three+ years, but that's all been forgotten in this bizarro penchant to become some sort of martyr. I don't think questions of his actual sanity are illegitimate at this point.

    I think someone should take an additional civil case against him on the grounds of being so boring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭hoodie6029


    I’ve worked with some nutters over the years but no one has ever turned up for work after they’ve been let go to ‘report for work’ as they didn’t accept their dismissal.
    Whatever personal problems there people had, they had the wherewithal to know that they couldn’t keep turning up and go back to their desk.
    And if they were in the situation the EB is in, still being paid, they also would have stayed at home and kept the money and said nothing in case it stopped.

    This is water. Inspiring speech by David Foster Wallace https://youtu.be/DCbGM4mqEVw?si=GS5uDvegp6Er1EOG



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,437 ✭✭✭sporina


    its psych he shud be in not prison



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76,221 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I have seen stories of bonkers Americans doing it, much of the culture of "get out there and hand CVs in to shops and offices with a firm handshake and you'll get a job" 1950s nonsense; thinking that showing up shows you're resilient and they'll hire you back.



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