i understand that fully but salers are really plain cattle
not much of a market for the bulls
at least an aax would always have buyers
Well, that's just it. You'd want to be crossing with a very muscled char bull to get consistent results. You'd be thinking that a typical Lim cow with more muscle, would be an easier option. Saler cows are hand milked in France to make cheese, so their milk is probably high in feed value.
you will get a sweeter looking calf off the lim cow but a far better boned hairy calf off the saler . They will regularly grade u off the right type of heifer. They are an easier kept cow than the lim as in very rarely anything goes wrong with them but they can be a bit flightier. I hated them for years but took Tanko’s advice years ago for heifers and I’m pleasantly surprised how well they worked .
I have a nice sales heifer haven't being able to catch her bulling yet but she's off a fiston heifer and carries a q gene so she should breed abit of style
There used to be a popular saying that the saler makes a Limousin look calm. They had a bad rep for a long time but are looked at more positively now with more docile bulls available. I’ve heard the best result for a Saler cow is an embryo transfer. With the calving ability and milk you get a monster of a calf.
Beguin heifer from a mccabe first calver. She has a Q gene. Close to 400kg, will get an angus next June and then progressively harder charlaois bulls as she matures. I've two saler cows, with no genes, that have calved the hardest bb bulls I can find so they are both incalf to the charlaois bull Royal oak. Will see how they handle him
The advantage of the PB Saler cow is her pelvic width, how much will that of compromised with the Q gene
Can you still get Beguin straws? Thought he was gone which is a shame. A great bull
this is a Roy heifer off a fiston heifer. She carries one copy of a q gene. She is a very low block of a heifer hard to know if she should be kept but il try her anyway. She was about 420kg at the end of Oct. Would lads keep her even if she was butty?
one wont make any difference
2 changes the pelvic shape
have a few roy cows, very quiet cattle, good cows i think, not over big cows either
how are the for milk? infairness I have 3 and all are very quiet. I was in cleaning a drinker yesterday and that heifer in pic above butted me in the back looking for a scratch, but i'll have to stop her doing this could be dangerous
you wouldnt say they were huge mikers to look at them but seem to make good job of calves anyway, very low maintenance cows, never seem to cause any bother and go back in calf
Have a few here too that are addicted to getting scratched with the Curry Comb, I find it a great way to keep cattle quiet if you are combing them
I spend 5 minutes most evening scratching different cows tails. Especially heifers. Often have to corner them against the feed barrier. Makes them very quiet. Great trick.
I do that too with the in-calf heifers. Both sides of the tail head is better as that's where you'll be checking for the pin bones before calving.
Scratching a tail will turn most heifers into a pet. Some respond immediately, some take a few days. Pair it with an inch of meal in a bucket and they’ll get used to being handled in no time.
I've started playing a radio in the shed with my cattle. Usually have it on RTE 1, so there is more talking going on. Most have got used to it, but one heifer really freaks out when she hears it. I imagine she'd act the same in a mart.
is there proven benefits to this or not?
A picture paints a thousand words. It’s a pity there’s not much of a market for Saler bulls isn’t it.
She did some job on them, what’s her breeding? Which bull are the twins off?
Well, it was recomended to me by a few older farmers who swore by it. They said it get's them used to hearing strange sounds. It doesn't do any harm anyway.
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Saler bulls are hard to finish. Hard to put a fat cover on them.
she’s lim out of a Maine Anjou cow, the father was a saler bull I bought for heifers out of a knottown bull ( not Roy) can’t remember his name. I’ve had no issue selling his bulls. This year, The lowest priced was 2130 at 380kg highest was 2920 at 480kg. The only issue is I’ve tended to get far more bulls than heifers. I’m then breeding the heifers back to lm and cows to charolais.
had a couple of Maine Anjou cows here. I really like them
That’s great money, was joking about them being hard sold, i never had any bother selling them. That Saler bull is doing the business for you so.
I have a Simmental second calver she has a nice lisna somebull calf at foot. I was thinking of putting that new charolias bull kilvilcoris udo on her as she is a brown Simmental and is a big plain type of animal. Or would she be better getting another limousin like Rolex? What do lads do with these type of cows?
try gerryguillane Phoenix power shape and style to anything I’ve bred him to so far. I’ll be putting him across anything Simmental to try breed replacements.
cheers. I wouldn’t be able to get a straw off him for this morning. What kind of calves is he breeding very shapey? And good size
he’s putting a bit of shape into nearly everything but can click extreme with blues. Very good on size.
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