Some mad videos emerging from Bondi beach in Sydney. Gun man opened fire. Seems to have been arrested from the videos I've seen, looks like multiple casualties.
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Jews should be allowed to live everywhere in safety.
But people shouldn't use the safety of Jews to justify the killing of Palestinians. These 2 things are inextricably linked.
...or else?
This is another attempt to blame Jews anywhere in the world for something they have no reponsibility for.
This is Australia, not Israel. Marches in Australia in the days straight after Oct 7th, so before Israel invaded Gaza, literally called to "Gas the Jews". It's dishonest to pretend that antisemitism is not the cause of the Bondi Beach attack rather than the consequence of anything Australian Jews have any responsibility for.
Heroic. But if they hadn’t imported the terrorist in the first place they wouldn’t have needed an immigrant to disarm him. It will now be used by progressives to deflect blame away from immigration.
Everyone knows that 99% of immigrants are not murderous. But how to tell in advance which ones are? If the only way to keep the murderous 1% out is to refuse entry to a majority of the 99%, then so be it. The fact that most men do not harass women does not remove the need for segregated toilets.
Palestinians should be allowed live in safety also don't you think? Can't have it every way.
We've been told to keep this to the relevant thread. It's just antisemitism to blame Australian Jews for Gaza.
Why were they targeting Jews ? Because of what is going on elsewhere for over 2 years. One is a symptom of the other.
So should people in Sudan.
Not sure what control the Jewish community in Australia has over either conflict?
Stop trying to play the "blame Jews" card.
We're all sick of it being used to halt any attempt to discuss Israel being held to account for what it was done.
The attack in Sydney is entirely unjustified, but it is sickeningly understandable. And that's just our reality.
And if you genuinely were concerned for the safety of Jews, you'd recognize why an event like this happened and advocate for that to change.
Why do they hate Jews ? Why do jews hate Muslims ? All the killing has to stop and both sides are responsible for it.
How do you deal with the 'natives' who commit crimes?
Do you really think that Jews have only been targeted since Oct 2023? Maybe you'd care to explain the murders of children at a French Jewish Lycee in Toulouse a decade ago then? By Moroccans IIRC.
It's only understandable if you buy the narrative that Pakistanis, Algerians, Moroccans and Afghans are somehow entitled to be so full of hatred for Jews because of Israel's existence that some of them decide to murder them anywhere in the world, just for being Jewish.
How do you think that can be stopped? By removing all the Jews in Israel and deporting them - where? To Australia?? Doesn't seem too safe.
why do you want to keep killing people ?
Build jails, tackle it early, chip away at it over generations. But ultimately it’s crime that we have no choice but to endure. That is not so of immigrant crime.
Israel have been slaughtering people for decades so it’s no great surprise
How is that the fault of Jewish kids at school in France? Or Australians at a Jewish festival at Bondi beach?
same way Palestinian children in school have been slaughtered by Israel
Israel is the most evil nation in the world and deserve zero sympathy considering all the horrendous acts they have carried out
So stabbing three Irish children in Parnell Square would be a reasonable response to the fighting in Gaza then too?
Or does being Jewish make children more acceptable targets? Care to explain why?
What has this got to do with Jewish people in Australia or in France or Manchester?
Other than anti semitism - and it's noticeable how all the "Oh we're only supporting innocent Palestinians" brigade are not prepared to call you out on this.
Jews suffering the same hatred Irish people suffered in the UK due to sf/ira bombings.
Sadly too many people can't separate the thuggish element for the normal decent people which 99+% of Jewish people are - just as 99+% of Irish people deplored the atrocities of sf/ira in the UK
You really gonna write all that without referring to Israel's actions before Oct 7th 2023?
And for the record, you're the one talking about deporting Jews from Israel. This victim complex is nauseating given the violence being carried out.
As a mod has said, theres a thread about the Gaza conflict so I'm not going to go in to that conflict any further here.
Actually Irish people suffered surprisingly little hatred in the UK, considering. And TBF they were mostly very careful not to attract attention by openly supporting the IRA either - for instance the attacks in England were pretty much all planned and carried out by people based in Northern Ireland, not even the south.
But those were terror attacks on England. Killing English people.
There is absolutely no reason why Jewish people living in Australia should be targeted in Australia because of anything Israel has done, any more than Australians of Irish origin living in Australia should have been attacked because of attacks in England (and they weren't.)
There's something else going on here, and its name is antisemitism.
So it would be reasonable to attack Irish Americans in America because of the IRA then? Funny enough that never happened.
That would be a good point if nobody was "blaming the Jews" - and yet they are. Just look at the posts above. The one I've quoted here isn't even the worst of them.
before Israel invaded Gaza
They were indiscriminately bombing the place for weeks before they physically put troops on the ground
I fail to believe anyone can truly think the actions of the IRA are in any way comparable to those of Israel.
While both committed acts of violence, they are incomparable in quantity, intensity, impact or ideology.
You're all over the place today in your attempts to make the most out of this horrific event in Australia.
Very sad. The World would be so much better if we could all just get along with other live and let live. Yes you can not love or like everyone but you can respect them and treat them with respect and dignity.
Where did anyone say that '' it would be reasonable ''? Violence from whatever side it comes from is never reasonable but it should always be expected.
"Put your sword back in its place, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword" (Matthew 26:52).
However it is usually the innocents who die because of the wars raged by the guilty.
Take that up with the poster who made the comparison then. I only responded accordingly.
In your race to see things the way only you want to see them you took it up wrong and came back with a silly analogy.
