According to KB it's "very expensive " to produce in-house. I can't fathom how, and I'd have thought that the national lottery would have covered most of the costs 😕
I find it astonishing that the Lottery programming cost RTE money. Surely the Lottery should have been paying them for the production and air time.
Seems to be part of the redundancy drive.
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it needs a studio, lights, cameras, presenter. Auto Q, hair , make up, producer, director , and so on
It all adds up fast.
All of which the lottery should have been paying for. They should be paying for the air time promoting their commercial product as well.
it draws in audiences, sells ad time. Probably also back to the days of wining streak when RTE got a game show out of it.
It can be done on a budget.... Presenter wearing own clothes, fake background, guy with a camera phone.
A ton of self trained YouTubers around, any of which could do this for a few quid a week, and broadcast the thing on YouTube.
The National Lottery, a tax on stupidity, good news it is proportional.
I thought that's the way it was produced .
Yes, but the lottery are not going to pay the insane costs incurred by the heavily-staffed heavily-unionised RTE, where a five minute show would take 15-20 staff to do a full 6-8 hour shift. The Lottery told RTE that Virgin Media would happily do it for 5-10% of the cost.
Yeah but then it wouldnt be hitting its targeted demographic...... brainless people not smart enough to watch anything else but RTE. Its all state produced for state benefit if you think about it. The scratch cards are a tax, RTE is state owned and the tax goes to Revenue. Only desperate eople by scratch cards and play lotto.
Do you have a link for that? Would love to read that
how many people actually watch lotto draws, could you not just do it as part of the news or as others have said just have it live streamed on youtube and the numbers given on the news.
Where I'm from that's how it's done, it's not part of the news but it's immediately afterwards.
They still need staff and camera operators for this and the problem is that RTE already use to many staff for it.
Few people trust the main stream broadcasters anymore and now you want to the destroy the last bit of trust by having it have a commercial ad for gambling as part of it. A privately ran gambling companies program shouldn't be on TV never mind part of the fecking news.
The handling and (mis-)management of the Lotto has been amateurish in the extreme going back decades.
Does anyone remember when RTE used to do the Big Big Movie on Saturday evenings? And at 8pm when there was maybe 20 minutes of the movie left when the tension or the action is building, they would break to go to the Lotto results. And when they used to do a movies on Wednesday nights, they'd break for the lotto results at 8pm and then do a News Bulletin as well, in the little used Network 2/RTE2 News studio, so it'd be half an hour until you got back to the movie by which time you'd have forgotten what was happening.
Just flash the numbers on screen and have the continuity announcer read them out. No need for anything flashy, it's not like many people watch it anyway.
They could do that, or if people can wait an hour, they could read out the numbers during the news. Or both!
As you say, theres no need for a full studio and a team of about 20 filming it.
They still break up the Saturday evening movie as you've described!
Ah FFS!
It's been a long time since I went to RTE for my movie watching, partly for that reason.
That Nuala Carey one must be very expensive ðŸ˜
The problem is RTE are in the mindset of the early 1990s. "We are the state broadcaster, the most trusted source for news, the government will always protect our position".
I believe I was the last generation to come home after school and watch television before watching the 9 o'clock news before bed. Look at college kids, they are ALL about their mobile phones and get their news from google. Advertiser know this and commerical advertising is moving away from tv and radio.
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@Supacat
More late 80's tbh.
Can we please avoid making remarks about named persons please.
they should get rid of the Angelus, it's ludicrous they're still broadcasting it.
No different attitude at the BBC, more of the same. "We are the State broadcaster, We are the establishment, We are the King makers, How dare you question our methods and people!". How ever the truth is slowly coming out over at the BBC.
Arent public figure fair game? They are in the public eye. IF Enoch Burke and Bob Vylan are fair game why arent RTE celebrities?
It is basically a case that RTÉ have largely no live programming on a Saturday night anymore.
But why would it cost anything more than the staff at are in RTÉ for 6.1 and the 9 O'Clock news.
Wednesday night edition shouldn't really be an issue.
And if it is costing so much wouldn't you wrap a live programming around it such as Winning Streak.
Would continuity not present this show.
You are using logic and commonsense when trying to understand an organisation where such things dont exist.
I am in no way defending RTE but it is heavily unionised so there are probably union rules saying something like there must be 3 sound engineers for live broadcasts, and the cost of a sound engineer working even for a 10 minute Lotto results broadcast on a Saturday night, the rate goes up. Cha-ching!
As you say there is no live programming on Saturday evening. They could probably do with some sort of Saturday Night Takeaway type show and then wrap it around the lotto results, but RTE dont want to make anything anymore, preferring to buy everything in.
It's kind of crazy when you think about it that there was The Den for kids on weekdays, back in the 80s and 90s, but in 2025, there is nothing like that anymore. Im open to correction, I'm not in the habit of watching RTE 2 on weekday afternoons.
