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Configure TP-Link Deco device as a Wi-Fi Router on Eir FTTH (F3000)

PeeJayIEee

Hi, this is to provide guidance to anyone who has, or is considering, installing a TP-Link Deco mesh router (in my case Deco BE65/BE9300) as a direct replacement to the Eir supplied F3000 fibre box.

Plug the Ethernet RJ-45 terminated cable from the fibre termination box into any WAN capable Ethernet port of the router.

Configure the Deco router via the Deco smartphone app with the following settings:

Operation Mode: Wi-Fi Router (default)
IPv4: Manual Configuration...
Internet Connection Type: PPPoE
Username: eircom@eircom.net
Password: broadband1
DNS Address: Auto
Advanced: Not used
MTU Size: 1480 (default)
IPv6: Auto Configuration
IPTV/VLAN: Enabled
ISP Profile: Custom
Internet VLAN: On
VLAN ID: 10
VLAN Priority: 0
IPTV VLAN: Off

Note that with these routers, initial DHCP for LAN clients will likely not function until an internet connection has established.

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NotShero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124148647#Comment_124148647

That's not really how you should be using extenders or mesh. You want to put them about halfway between where the main node/router is and the location where there's bad signal. They're still using WiFi to connect back to the main node/router. At the moment you might as well just use the WiFi on the consoles as the extenders shouldn't be providing a much better expierence as you have them right next to them.

Powerline adapters use the internal electrical wiring so you would plug those in and connect the consoles with ethernet to them. These would give better latency than WiFi but the download speed would be lower. It can depend on how old the wiring is in your house and how it's configured.

If you were to get the TP-Link Deco, again place the nodes about halfway between the consoles and the main node. You can remove the Eir router altogether and connect the main node to the ONT, you'd need to set the connection type as Dynamic IP and you'd need to set VLAN ID 10 in VLAN/IPTV settings. You could instead use the Deco in access point mode and connect it to the Eir router, ideally turn the WiFi off on the Eir router then.

paddyfitz88

I need help ,

Recently got Eir Fibre installed to the home , first few weeks were great , I’ve bought 2 eir WiFi boosters for my room and my brothers room to plug into our PlayStations by Ethernet cable , once again first week or so was great getting 500mbs speed with no drops , in the last week the boosters will randomly drop and turn off and on , I presume these eir boosters are just trash.

I’m looking at getting the TP-LINK Deco M4 for our rooms , is it as easy as buying them and connecting them to the Eir fibre box downstairs and then just moving them up to our rooms and plugging them into our PlayStations by Ethernet again ? I’m just thinking that the TP links are a better product and won’t result in drops!?

DrGonzo2025

sorry for the delayed response. I got it solved thanks to NotShero. But thank you for your reply also.

The Ayatolla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124089788#Comment_124089788

Does the router have VLAN tag settings?

Did you set that? I think it should be set to VLAN ID = 10

DrGonzo2025

you are a life saver!!!!!! Thank you so much!!

I owe you a pint!! Thank you

NotShero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124089879#Comment_124089879

You can just input something random for those - 200, 300 etc.

DrGonzo2025

thank you so much for your quick response. When I do that it’s asking me to input values for the rest of the fields. See screen shot

NotShero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124089788#Comment_124089788

You don't need to select PPPoE with Eir, select Dynamic IP.

You need to set VLAN ID 10 also, it should be under Advanced > Network > IPTV/VLAN. Mode - Custom, Internet VLAN ID - 10.

DrGonzo2025

Hi, I’m hoping someone can help. As my eir router decided to die today (literally smoke came out of it) so I purchased a tp link router ac 1200. I can’t get the router to connect to the internet. I went though the settings and used ppoe and the username and password eir gave me. But it still won’t connect to the internet. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

NotShero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124058274#Comment_124058274

Just with 5Gb, if you don't want to use the supplied router, you'd need a 5Gb/10Gb capable router. The max over a WiFi 7 6GHz access point with a supported device would be about 1.7Gb/s and you'd need a 5Gb/10Gb NIC for your laptop/desktops to take advantage of it wired.

ddonlon

Thanks for the reply I got the deco connected to the fibre , used PPoE manged to change the Vlan to 10 .

I got 400mb on speedtest on a 10/12 year old laptop

I am on 500mb but can see deals for 5gig for near enough the same money, so plan to switch soon.

I will switch back to the archer until I am ready to set up all the devices around the house

NotShero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124057370#Comment_124057370

You might be able to connect the Decos wirelessly to the Archer router in EasyMesh/OneMesh settings.

Anyway, you definitely need VLAN ID 10 so make sure that's set. If the username "vodafone@vodafone.ie" is not working, try "(Your Vodafone Router Serial Number)@vfieftth.ie"

ddonlon

I am switching from the archer to the deco, archer is working , I will try that password I was using broadband.

I have extenders, plugs, tplinks all over the house , I want to use the decos only I have 3

NotShero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/124057319#Comment_124057319

Why are you using another router in addition to the Deco? You can connect the Deco to the ONT.

Have you set VLAN ID 10 in VLAN/IPTV settings? And you need to select PPPoE

Username - vodafone@vodafone.ie

Password - vodafone

ddonlon

Hello,
I am trying to get deco 9300 connected to my fibre, I have a tp link archer 1750 connected staight to my ONT box .
I have tried every setting dynamic, ppoe etc, it will not connect to the internet. I do not have all the options on the Deco app that I can see others have. I am with vodafone and use vodafone@Vodafone .ie and broadband details.

Wifi will not connect now , must be all switching on and off

NotShero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123863778#Comment_123863778

PPPoE is not needed with Eir and Virgin Media, you just select IPoE/DHCP/Dynamic IP.

The Ayatolla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123849425#Comment_123849425

Do you not have to also set the PPPOE username/password?

John_Rambo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123862270#Comment_123862270

OK!! If all fails I will venture out on this (advanced but I assume brilliant advice). Thanks again for taking the time.

NotShero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123862255#Comment_123862255

You can change their SSIDs (WiFi name) to match the Eir router in their settings but YMMV. Your devices may or may not handover between the Eir router and the extenders with the same SSID.

You could instead replace the Eir router altogether with a TP-Link router to make your own integrated "mesh system" with the extenders -

https://amzn.eu/d/cU9YS1W

https://amzn.eu/d/09qQIYV

John_Rambo

Thanks so much @NotShero I think I'm almost there with them.

NotShero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123862190#Comment_123862190

Those are range extenders, so you wouldn't connect it directly to the Eir router.

They do have an "Access Point Mode" If you have ethernet running to those areas of the house, but I presume you don't?

You place them somewhere halfway between where you want better signal and where the router is.

https://youtu.be/FSD-oJs1jC4?si=WB5CUa47E0GEK1RH

John_Rambo

OK. I'm way behind you all when it comes to this stuff. Here's my problem and I appreciate any advice.

I have on TP Link RE650 plugged in to my new Eir black box. (technician said this was the best set up) I have another RE650 plugged in to the room above. The third floor is the problem, of course it worked when the technician was here, now it works for a few seconds after a reboot then it goes to Network Status - No Internet and we've no wifi on the third floor. I've rebooted, factory reboot… all the advice online, correct passwords etc…

biebiebie

Just thought I'd chime in here in case it's of any use to anyone. I have similar working.

The key for me (as per above) was to plug directly into the ONT. And set vlan=10. The Eir router is back in its box.

I'm using an Asus RT-AX88U Pro wired into the ONT (and broadcasting WiFi). And then an Asus RT-AX82U (old router) in mesh mode over wifi to extend the wifi signal from the kitchen and beyond into the back garden. I have a third Asus router not in use, but I might add it to the mesh for upstairs . However it's not really required as the AX88U is so strong, so it's just a spare currently.

As you might tell, I'm a fan of Asus routers. A big fan of the kids settings/protection. Not to mention the stability!

NotShero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123849421#Comment_123849421

Yeah just connect the Deco directly to the ONT. Set Dynamic IP as the connection type. Then in IPTV/VLAN settings set Internet VLAN ID 10.

NabyLadistheman

Just digging this up again if that's ok. I just had eir FTTH installed. Is removing their router the best way to go about this? I will be using Deco X10

Broadbanned

Also, while maybe placebo, browsing feels a bit snappier when I have both running.

Broadbanned

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123785496#Comment_123785496

If you want an apples to apples setup mainly. Some modern devices use it I'm guessing and there can be pros to efficiency and when accessing certain sites, etc. I don't know a massive amount, but I will most likely do some research regarding this. My main aim was to get it set up exactly like Eir's router. And IPV6 is supposedly the future.

Also, switching off the ONT isn't always required, but a general rule of thumb is to do so as it essentially covers the variables that can occur when using different devices.

Doodah7

Coincidentally, I too set up two XE75's last weekend and after ignoring eir's useless settings advice on their website and choosing Dynamic IP and setting VLAN to 10, I was working away immediately. Although having this useful guide would have been brilliant! Incidentally, I didn't switch off the ONT, just switched routers and proceeded as above.

Can I ask: I didn't switch on IPv6 and I am wondering what is the advantage in doing so?

Broadbanned

Just to chime in here. I recently got a pair of XE75 Deco Mesh units and successfully configured them with Eirs FTTH. Fully configured, getting IPV4 and IPV6 running in tandem, without the use of Eirs router.

I am connecting the first deco directly to the ONT and then connecting the second one via wired backhaul.

These are the exact steps I took.

Make sure your Eir Router is plugged in and you connect to its web browsers login page. This is done by going onto your pc or phone and typing in 192.168.1.254 in URL searchbar. Log in using your original WiFi password on the back of the box. The username is admin.

Once logged in, you will be looking for two main things "WAN Mac Address" (very important and needed for the deco setup) and go to IPV6 and get the IPV6 primary and secondary DNS. Write these three things down.

Now, turn of the ONT by the wall socket (or unplug it if your socket doesn't have switches) and plug out the eir Router, you are done with that completely.

Wait 5 minutes, plug in /switch on the ONT.

Plug your deco in to the wall and start the setup.

First select "I don't have a modem" if that comes up as you will be running it straight to the ONT.

It should ask you to plug in the wan cable. Plug the wan cable from the ONT to the deco and it may ask to restart the ONT in the setup guide. Do whatever it says for that.

The next step should be choosing Dynamic IP or PPPOE etc.

Very important for fiber to the home users.

(Also, you can enable/set up IPV6 separately after if you wish , same as I did)

Select

Dynamic IP

DNS address Auto

Enable IPTV/VLAN

Set ISP Profile to "Custom"

Set VLAN ID to 10

Set priority to 0

Disable IPTV VLAN (or just make sure it's not enabled). If any issues arises where you can't uncheck this, just set it up and then disable it after, but it should just let you.

Most important thing. Enable "Mac Clone" and input the WAN mac address you wrote down when logged into the previous Eir Router.

This clones the previous routers Mac address and gives the green light for the internet to come through every time. Without this sometimes if you reboot or change certain settings , it can't get back on the internet. This Mac cloning will essentially turn the new tp link router into an eir verified/authorised router in terms of recieving internet.

Now onto IPV6. By far the trickiest to get set up.

Remember this rule of thumb also, whenever you change the IPV6 type etc, you have to reboot your modem for it to take effect. So if you are trying different methods/types and wondering why none of them are working , it might just be because you never rebooted.

How I got it to work for Eir specifically: For IPV6 , enable it firstly if it's not. Then:

Set Dynamic IP

Set "Non Address" for "Get IPV6 address"

Enable Prefix Delegation

Here's a tricky bit. You can set the DNS to auto or alternatively, type in the two IPV6 DNS you took down when you were logged into the eir Router.

I personally chose auto, and it auto filled in with the same DNS options anyway, however they randomly disappeared ( they were showing at first, but IPV6 still works regardless ). I may just put them in manually and would probably recommend doing/trying that however I'm just stating exactly what I did to get it to work.

Last part is choose "SLAAC + Stateless DHCP" as the Assigned type.

After this reboot your router (either from the app or the wall) and it should work when it boots back up.

I really hope this helps anyone that's trying to set these up. I hope it works, I know how frustrating it can be messing with settings all day 😁.

PS, go on whatismyIPaddress.com and both IPV6 and IPv4 should now be recognised. Alternatively you can load the IPV6 version of google and it should tell you there too.

NotShero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123467892#Comment_123467892

Yeah it’s always best to connect straight to the ONT, If you’re connecting it to the F3000 you need to set the Deco into Access Point Mode and ideally turn the WiFi (2.4Ghz & 5Ghz) off on the F3000.

The Deco E4 only has 100Mb/s ports as you said so needs to be replaced. You could however buy one upgraded Deco, with 1Gb ports, to use as your router and use your existing ones around the house as nodes.

Add one M4 as a router into your existing E4 setup -

https://amzn.eu/d/gNdfYrD

New mesh with WiFi 6 (Can still add your existing E4’s to it) -

https://amzn.eu/d/i1V0JA4