Please tell me these were hung by the Council for some upcoming event, and not by homegrown Tommy Robinson types marking territory likes dogs peeing on lampposts?
You believe what you want to believe, but the Irish Tricolour is not a hateful flag lol..
Let's get one thing clear, these flags aren't to celebrate some feast day that occurs every year in March. Comparisons with France with its long history of revolution and counter-revolution don't apply.
I'm not intimidated by them but I object to the national flag of my country being zip-tied to every second lamppost in areas of my city.
I appreciate that council workers may feel threatened if they go to remove them, rather as they did with black flags for IRA dead in years gone bye. I believe those who put them up are hoping the authorities will attempt to remove them so I'm a bit conflicted as to the proper course of action.
Each to their own, but I prefer to see the Irish Tricolour flying in Ireland and not foreign flags or flags representing certain ideologies ... am I far right (a nazi) now for my beliefs?
But if I'm far right in your eyes then you are extreme left in mine
The losers in society who hang them on street lamps are a hateful shower.
100% they are hoping for them to be taken down and will then stage protests, recording and hurling abuse at those removing them.
That is why they are best left up, and removed when then become dirty, ripped etc and prior to that happening just announce council staff will be removing them due to the neglect of the flags.
It's simple really, don't give them the reaction that they want, at the end of the day it's our national flag, it hasn't been defaced with some hate message. Taking them down will open a can of worms if people put them up for any other reason
Does the office of the Taoiseach have any protocols for preventing corruption amongst Dail members, releasing names of people who commission €250,000 bike sheds, stopping those in power from blocking democratic choice, or ensuring we have an unbiased national media? Or are the protocols mainly about how to hang a piece of cloth?
Anyone else feel like at this point, the flag should be changed to a new one? There is peace between catholic and protestant so it is outdated.
And it would leave the far right stranded with their lampposts.
No
Stupid idea.
BTW it represents peace between the nationalist (green) and unionist (orange) traditions, you're deluded if you think there's 'peace' between the two. Tell that to the Daily Mail, of all newspapers, making an issue of HH's 'connections' to the OO and it being picked up by our own so called 'Republicans'.
Personally I am very conflicted on the issue of the flags. Im a live n let live kinda person. But I am a proud Irish person. I remember a time from late 60's→80's when flying a tricolour was associated with the IRA & the troubles in the North. The general public only really embraced it again during Euro '88 + Italia '90. Lest we not forget we only left the Commonwealth officially and became a Republic in April 1949. Listen I am not gonna give everyone a lesson in history because most of us know our story.
I am just back from Greece and they fly their flag with pride & its very visible. Its a source of national pride. Nobody complains about it. Most countries fly there flags with pride. I feel whilst there may be a bit of piggybacking on the situation in the UK here I personally would not stop anybody flying the tricolour. It would take a brave person to go and take one down IMO. If you go about removing any then many more will appear. You will have protests. You will have marches. And god knows what else.
Just because you choose to fly our national flag does not make a person a bigot, a racist or anti immigration.
But this isn't just some person deciding to fly a flag outside their house because they're proud to be Irish.
This is orchestrated by a far right group. I've seen them on Facebook.
There is a small village close to me that never had tri-colours flying (save for certain occasions) and overnight, almost every lamppost now has a flag on it.
And are there loads of petrified people living in the small village now?
I think there is a bit of the idea about not flying the flag as the country is still partitioned.
By flying the flag you are almost agreeing with the partition, I think that's a big reason why we don't see the Irish tri colour as present as we see in other counties.
While I don't know the village referred to I'd hazard a guess there's quite a few villagers petrified to remove them.
If no one is living in fear of the flag then why would you take them down?
Just go about yours business and they wont have the desired effect. No one is going to start rocking up to the little village in the hopes of being recruited to the right wing racist fascists.
Well if you're asking me that question I'd take a flag or flags down if someone put one up on a lamppost outside my house because it wouldn't be respectful to the flag and not in keeping with the area or general Irish traditions regarding flying the national colours.
If someone or some people think they have a right to put it up on a lamppost then I have every right to take it down.
The Irish flag, or any flag for that matter can mean different things to different people.
The issue is when you put up the flag, what message are you trying to get across?
Best of luck to the irish ( insert sport) team in ( Insert competion)
Happy saint paddys day
Easter Sunday rememberence
Eurovision ( is that still a thing?)
Ireland is full - get em out - no foreidners - I'm not racist but …………
its a rich tapestry
You would go to that trouble, no matter what the flag was? Because its not in keeping with a small Irish village or general Irish traditions... which would be long standing.
You have the right, but would you actually bother? People have a lot of rights to do things but dont bother.
Well I would bother if I had the equipment to reach and remove.
'Because its not in keeping with a small Irish village or general Irish traditions... which would be long standing.'
Yes that's basically what I posted. It's also disrespectful to the national flag to zip-tie it to public infrastructure.
I'm not aware of any Irish village where it's the long standing tradition to fly the tricolour 24/7/365 from lampposts. Of course there may be a couple in NI that I'm not aware of.
What far right group is this?
A sort of an Ireland's Call flag
Then I admire the fact you are a stickler for the rules/regs/traditions/respect around flying a flag and that you are not just using it as a veil to remove a flag because some body, some where might feel scared because someone told them that the flag is there to make them feel scared.
So, just to try get some distinction here about flag flying.
If someone started flying the feminist flag, given how toxic some feminism can be (eg. scum manifesto), should men be intimidated? Do you think they would be sympathised with if they expressed that they felt intimidated?
What about someone sticking the tricolour flags out the window of the car on those plastic poles? Would people go around snapping them off? Would anyone support people damaging the car because its now a symbol of extreme right wing views?
If anyone is really aggreaved about the flags could you make your way out to ballygunner and take down all the ballygunner flags that are zip tied to public lighting poles.
Anyone living in the area that might be a member of another club may feel uncomfortable looking at them.
Nah its completely different because there is respect and traditions and operating hours for the tricolour, not GAA flags.
The only 'feminist flag' I've seen in my area is the multicolour one a neighbour occasionally puts up in their window. I've seen lots of Ukrainian flags and Palestinian flags but they're all in people's windows or on/in private cars, which is their business.
The intimidation arises around the removal. That's my view, whatever spin you chose to put on it is yours.
Im not spinning it, im asking questions to understand where the line is. Damned if you dont get it, damned if you try to get it. The only option left is to go with it just because.
Im putting different flags into the same spaces to gauge people's opinions on it, how else are you supposed to compare the scenarios?
The feminist flag seems to be a purple background with a Venus symbol and fist, I dont think the one you described is a feminist flag.
Just look at the people erecting them. Nothing else to be doing during the day.
You cant be judging people on their appearances, its 2025.
I can.
"Im putting different flags into the same spaces"
Not really, you're trying to compare tricolours on lampposts (public utilities) to different flags on private property.
