Israel/Palestine Thread

There is no possible way you can know that, not an iota of truth to your statement. What your saying is Israel would have just accepted what happened on Oct 9th, shrugged their shoulders and said fair enough, we have the Hamas leadership. Not even the most rabid, foaming at the mouth zionist spokesperson would even attempt to make such a ludicrous statement.

Fair enough if you did not mean mean me specifically.

No point in relitigating it & just repeating same points since we just don't agree here (on whether he's inconsistent, or the worth of the suggestion).

As has also been pointed out, he's criticised EU leaders for their "lethargic" response.

Yes - he's (Higgins) criticised the EU (and other member states I think?) before in his second term. In this case it is fair I suppose. However the EU itself can't act on this issue when there is no consensus from the members to do so yet.

Anyway, I think our relationship with the EU and Irish foreign policy generally is role of the Taoiseach and government.

His statements on this kind of stuff (which I don't remember from term 1, though in fairness the world beyond our borders was, looking back, more stable with a lot less going on!) is part of the "pushing the envelope" of what the Irish President does I mentioned, which I see as a negative overall that may bite us in future.

I first heard of Tony Blair shortly after the death of John Smith. Even back then I thought there was something shady about him .

Seven common tropes used to deny Gaza’s famine, debunked by an expert https://share.google/TXGTaBPNtfUjhFUQ5

Pro Israelis:But Hamas... zzzz

The Israelis have industrialised the mass murder of Semites. Calls of anti-semitism are simply bullshit....

Like their state...

Sounds very much like the plan is to displace the people out of Gaza as quick as possible or just kill them. The military seem to think it is not an easy job and can't be done quickly. No idea where they will go if they do leave either.

Difficult to comprehend this is actually happening.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/anyone-in-gaza-city-who-doesnt-evacuate-can-die-of-hunger-or-surrender-smotrich-said-to-tell-idf-chief/#:~:text=The%20report%20also%20says%20that,%5D%2C

Do you actually believe this? Do you think that the Israelis, the "only democracy in the Middle East" with the "most moral army in the world", are committing crimes against humanity because 'but Hamas'?

Yes. I wonder did they stick to reporting and not putting words in the mouth of spokespeople when covering what Slobodan was doing in the early '90s. The BBC is not really neutral when we clearly see how their presenters frame things depending on who they are interviewing - if it's a guest critical of Israel they are at pains to report what the IDF and Israeli government would say to that criticism, but not so keen to quote the Kremlin position when it's a guest critical of Russia.

I see the UN mission in Lebanon is to end. Are they opening up the entire region for Israeli expansion?

That will be the propaganda promulgated by some anyway, with not a shred of evidence.

so you don’t want them to report the news factually, is that what you are saying.
what’s your opinion on the multitude of other news outlets who reported the same thing, including Haraatz? Are they openly biased as well,

What is your opinion on the article posted a few posts back about the conditions journalists are enduring in Gaza, was that one ok or a simple regurgitation? Is it a case of the news we agree with is neutral, the stuff we don’t like is biased?

If someone says it's raining outside when the sun is shining, it shouldn't be reported that X says it's raining.

Pretty basic to understand.