Wrong.
The return / recycle conflation is getting worse with these clowns. It seems they can't make up their minds which it is.
Collection of recyclables does not equal recycling.
Whatever best fits the narrative for the day.
I was in Tesco today and had a bottle in the car so brought it in as I was getting a drink and put it in the machine got the receipt then went to the self service till, scanned my items and then scanned the receipt from the deposit machine and a message comes up to put the receipt in the voucher slot so did that and the machine just stayed on the message screen, so asked the Customer service person over and said that I put the receipt in the slot like it says but the till just stayed stuck on the message and she says I don't think there is a scanner in that slot and I was like but I scanned it on the till. She just shrugged her shoulders and got the message off so that I could pay for my stuff.
It's such a pain in the shops between scan this barcode for points, scan that voucher for money off and then scan the deposit voucher. In Dunnes if you spend do the 10 of 50 voucher it is not including the deposit.
In Dunnes i was told by an Assistant manager (when my Return voucher wouldn't scan) it can take up to 30mns for my receipt to get on the system.
So did you get the 15c back ?
The Dunnes 10 off 50 applies only to purchases.
The DRS deposit is not a purchase.
I haven't really had any problems in Dunnes and the one that I go to have really upped their game, in that they actually have a member of staff who comes down to inspect the machines every 15 - 20 minutes and then they do empty the machines they use that time to give the machines are good clean as well, unlike other places I have been where you have to go looking for someone to tell them the machine is full and then they have to go looking for someone else to tell them that the machine is full and then finally someone comes out to empty the machine, meanwhile you are left waiting.
Maybe he'll not make it to Manager 🙂
I don't spend 30 minutes shopping in Dunnes and never had a problem with the vouchers.
Spar machine down again. Go up to Tesco and theirs is down too.
Fuck this shite.
I can only imagine how much worse this nonsense would be if my mobility was impaired and I had to make that journey.
We've had a few kids in the estate going door to door the past week or so asking if we've any bottles or cans. Always give them a couple if we haven't already returned them.
Some awful person gave them six 5l empty drums of water that they were carrying around, poor kids thought they were going to get loads for the big bottles.
I got it another day.No big deal.
Just wondering,would that Dunnes be in Co Tipperary?🤔
I returned a few cans at a Dunnes this am and a staff member was cleaning the RVM.
Just above the reject bin there was a small locker built into the machine containing cleaning materials, cloths etc.
I never noticed it before.
They now have a really annoying radio advert. Talking about how ReTurn is helping to build MRI machines and school kits and what not. It goes on to say, that it's not ReTurn donating some of their 54 million, it's people donating their cans to individual charities.
IMO, they need to fire their PR person, because that 'revelation' leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.
Anyone getting attacked by wasps at these machines in this warmer weather. Another hazzard with this scam
The CEO loves to talk up the "Community" and "Charity" aspect. Probably on PR advice: Salve our bad rep with consumers (and deflect from our bulging bank balance) by upping the Social Good message.
What's interesting is that 'Social Good' is not quantifiable, but in our media Foley is enabled in turning that into a plus by subtly suggesting it "could be huge".
By this I mean Foley will tell us there over 3,000 GAA clubs, other sports clubs, schools and places like hospitals collecting cans that are then redeemed (via volunteers) for deposit.
But because it's all done by volunteers using regular RVMs and collecting cash no one can actually tell what is normal consumer returns and what is the volunteers acting for their club or school.
If we could quantify it, the volunteer actiivities would undoubtedly be tiny compared to consumer re-turns., no more than a small fraction of 1% of all re-turn volume (c. 3,000 community bins across Ireland vs 2.1m homes or 5m + consumers). But Ciaran Foley will use headline examples of a CUH hospital raising €20k via its porters, or the €167k kids Charity donations re-turn made from festivals to hoodwink you into thinking this is practically a social good movement. (Just on that €167k, re-turn have the bare faced gall to say that money is "directly supporting over 165,000 children and families in need across Ireland* - really? €1 p.a. for each child in need? Social Good in action. {Link: https://re-turn.ie/return-for-children-celebrates-first-anniversary-with-re-turn/}
The real story, of course, is the 9-figure balance of unredeemed deposits sitting in the re-turn bank account. (I'm assuming €67m end Dec is at or near €100m by now).
But hey, let's not compare that instantly quantifiable number with the "immeasurable" social good.
Except for the fact they will have a record of the donations made at the machines. You can choose to cash out or donate to the Irish Cancer Society on the machines local to me. So there is a least one recorded donation part
It's not a scam, just them holding our deposit until we reclaim the money. But if we divert our Re-turn money to a charity instead of keeping it, they are taking the credit. 🙄
The two people who thanked your post I think didn't get the tone of your post.
@odyssey06 @bog master Note the roll eyes at the end of his post.
Ah, I think they did.
An entertaining article in this morning's Irish independent. It's refreshing to read something that isn't a sweetheart PR piece.
https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/oliver-callan-silly-hyphens-vile-smells-and-no-oversight-why-bonkers-bottle-return-scheme-makes-my-blood-boil/a1948155359.html
There should have been accompanying legislation to allocate the huge slush fund of unclaimed deposits to a properly thought-out litter eradication scheme.
well said Oliver Callan
So the Re-Turn board got a 50% pay rise and no-one knows what CEO Foley is getting! Jaysus. Some way to run a "not for profit".
Then the filthy belt slowly takes one sad bottle away at time. You come away an aeon later with half a tenner and a sense of shame, knowing that this is how you’re spending irretrievable moments of your one wild and precious life.
🤣
That's paywalled.
Can you cut and paste the article here?
That article in the indo hits the mark.
Machine in my local SuperValu was not working again last night.
I would love to read that article in full. Does anyone have a copy of it?
archive.is, copy any Indo link in to it and wait a bit… (unless someone else has already done it)
Thank you L1011.
https://archive.is/YgvLp
Excellent article and sums up how I feel.
Looks like a nice little earner for the Government with VAT also:
The annual report discloses that the income from unredeemed deposits has resulted in a VAT settlement by Re-turn of €23.7m.
The wording of the RTE article is also fairly albeist IMO not considering people who are physically unable to take part in the scam scheme.
Irish consumers last year turned their back on €66.7m when they failed to cash in their deposits for drink containers through the Government's Deposit Return Scheme (DRS).
