Possibly a thread elsewhere already but
Temple Bar has always been overpriced but €9 for a pint is pretty insane.
Roughly 90 pints per keg × 9 = 1800 per keg they must be making a pretty penny. I know rents, insurance, staff etc
Locally i paid €4.90 for a pint of Birra Moretti
So would or do you pay €9 a pint..
Sitting in a pub in Clare earlier this evening and it was 6.20 for Guinness, thought it was a bit saucy seeing as it’s not a tourist area. Am I out of touch ?
That's not surprising.
Relative to income the price of off license alcohol is much cheaper than it was years ago.
I remember in the mid 90s cans in the off license were at least £1 and wages were way less than they are now.
This is very crude, but when I was 18 my first job (in Donegal) paid about 4.50 punts an hour. Pints were around 1.90; you had to work approximately 40% of an hour (24 minutes) for a pint. When I home recently I think pints were around 5.20, so my old job would need to be paying about 13 per hour.
AAI are out of control.
Calling for not one, not two but three separate forms of price increase on drink.
Excise increase
MUP increase
Social Responsibility Levy Increase
Time the politicians woke up and kick them into touch.
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Who said anything about tallaght becoming a tourist trap? The thread is about the price of pints and there are pints (craft beer at that!) to be had for €6 in a pretty cool establishment selling any amount of different foods in a lovely atmosphere with inside and outside areas. TBH you couldn’t ask for much more and I think people that can go there should show support and stop guzzling the Diageo and Heineken juice.
On-trade alcohol is 24% more affordable today than 20 years ago
What absolute bollocks.
It'll kickstart me into homebrewing.
It's a strategy that will suit some who are prepared to buy the equipment and take up a new hobby.
I've done cider before due to the glut of apples from Dad and a neighbour of his. I've toyed with the idea of beer, although wouldn't have much interest in the basic kits. I'll go all in with grains/hops if I'm going to do it.
This is a good channel for an overview of the basics.
How is it bollix though?
at the turn of the century a can was anything between (the IR£ equivalent of) €1 and €2 .
It's pretty much the same now, but our wages are much higher.
I know people love to hate on the AAI and all but they are not wrong on this one.
And those who have a passion for cleaning.
"on trade" usually refers to alcohol sold in pubs and restaurants etc. Not cans from an off licence or the local Spar.
On trade alcohol is not cheaper today than it was 20 years ago.
My quote is specifically about the on-trade.
@Fr. Todd Unctious
Here is the quote again.
On-trade alcohol is 24% more affordable.
I did not mention off-trade.
In my village, pints of stout have increased from 4.20/4.40 at the start of COVID in 2020 to 6.00 now.
That is nearly a 50% rise, in five years.
More affordable!!!
You can get 12 bottles of Cobra beer in Lidl for 15 Euro. That's pretty cheap. It works out at around 1.25 a bottle. That's "off trade".
The price of the pint, in an average boozer, has risen to ludicrous levels in the last few years to the point where people are spending the guts of a tenner for ONE PINT.
That is not cheaper, by anyone's realistic yardstick. The AAI are talking absolute bollocks.
Sorry, read it as "off trade".
Too late at night for me to be posting.
Yeah I can't believe that "on trade" is cheaper now.
I'd love to see the calculations on that.
Yeah I misread it as "off trade".
I wonder how they are coming up with that.
Made up to try push their point, like nearly everything else they claim.
The three separate increases proposed by AAI would all apply to the off trade.
This is despite the evidence that we are currently the most expensive country in the EU for off trade at just under twice the average.
https://share.google/RiSl2Z9lMr8N65CsW
(the headline refers to soft drinks but the detail on alcohol is further down)
Real trolling headline in the IT today. Kudos …
https://www.irishtimes.com/world/asia-pacific/2025/07/25/it-tastes-like-an-ashtray-irish-pubs-lament-the-arrival-of-chinese-brewed-guinness/
I was in most of the pubs in Lahinch last week.
5.70 in one for Guinness, 6.00 in the rest.
Minimum wage €13.50, so price is much the same.
Those complaining about €6 - €6.50 need to understand the costs of delivering that pint to you and quickly you'll realise its quite good value.
Wages alone for minimum wage staff cost about €16.50 an hour. €13.50 + PRSI (9%) + bank holiday (4%) + holiday (8%). A decent bar person will be on more than this. And they are working and getting paid when the bar is empty as well as when its busy.
With the 2nd highest mimimum wage in Europe and highest utility costs, you simply need to accept that prices will be elevated where the wage and utility elements are a large part of the costs.
USA is an example. Staff costs are high, especially in California and a pint under $10 is rare and under $12 in prime areas, similarly in Seattle and most larger cities. in DC they think $10 happy hour is cheap! And remember, they also expect 20% tip .
This country pays good wages. Direct taxes are low especially if you earn under €45,000, so €6-€6.50 for a creamy pint in a nice pub is good value in relative terms.
Guinness now seems to be €6.50 as standard in central pubs around Kilkenny city. Crazy stuff.
Ah sure, we all do that. 😉
It's not "good value", it's not approaching good value.
It is when compared to its peers. Dublin 23rd on the list:
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/region_prices_by_city?itemId=4®ion=150
Well of course it's a completely different drink - nitro gas on draught vs CO2 in the bottle, gives the bottle a more acidic taste
Can't beat a bottle off the shelf!
An oul' dusty wan from the back as a friend does say.
And yet, facing the same costs and overheads, it is possible to buy pints of stout for under 5.00 in Dublin.
I could use Spoons as an example, selling pints in central Dublin for under 3.00.
But using them as a comparator is perhaps unfair, due to their large buying power.
(although I note that with just six pubs in Ireland, they manage to sell Irish-produced cask beer for under 3.00 with just six pubs worth of volume)
Maybe a better example is the Auld Triangle or the Lark Inn, where pints of stout around 5.00 are sold, with the same electricity/water/insurance overheads as elsewhere.
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