https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
To be perfectly honest I don't know, don't care, if Tony Blair is a war criminal, or if Trump could be.
I'm not here to bat for Trump, the US, or Israel.
It's just my personal opinion that the elimination of Iran's nuclear programme is a hugely positive thing.
America, fcuking up the middle east. Again
Trump addressing the nation at 3am Irish time
Epstein was Jewish, Ghislanes father worked for Mossad.
Air strikes on foreign countries doesn't quite make for a war by themselves. The US has done several around the world at various times that weren't described as wars.
He'll be able to sell limited actions like these to his base so long as they don't involve any deployments of ground troops.
Trump is an Israeli asset. America is a colony of Israel. The entire purpose of them getting him elected was to do this war against Iran on behalf of Israel. Nobody in the world has an interest in this except Jews getting their way again. They want to be able to murder civilians and steal land with impunity like they do in all the other countries around them which Iran is an impediment to.
All eyes are now on the Houtis.
Suitable
For what its worth, there is a huge pushback against this on American social media this evening - many, many people criticising Trump and saying "this is not our war". People even calling him a 'warmonger' and a 'terrorist' etc.
Those celebrating it appear to be only a minority.
It's 2am Irish time as CNN said they will have it in 15 minutes.
”take a country which has nukes and is a threat to the entire world if they feel even remotely slighted out of the mix”
Taking Israel out is madness
Lindsay Graham probably
Disagree.
The US backs Israel because for them it's a very important regional asset. It makes sense for the US from a strategic point of view, not shadowy jews pulling strings.
That is to say - I'm not saying the Jewish lobby holds no sway. I'm saying that the idea that the Jewish lobby says Jump and the US says how high, is the far-fetched part.
People forget that the US did not back Israel for literal decades because it considered it a waste of time. It was only when Israel surprised the world by fending off multiple coalition invasions and becoming a regional power that the US sat up and reconsidered.
It's in noones interest for a state like Iran to develop nuclear weapons.
They will row back in and it will be phrases like 'one and done' 'in and out' 'It's not war' etc…. that will appear. People called him a terrorist…. well jayus, I'd also call someone inciting an insurrection as a domestic terrorist, but million's voted for him!
There will be zero blow back for Trump on this attack on Iran.
3am. Presenter just apologised for giving wrong time.
Oops CNN just said they got the time wrong and its over an hour away.
Boring nonsense. The kind of rubbish propaganda I'd expect an agent to be dropping on the forum.
See my post below yours.
I'm surprised just how unpopular this is on social media - looks like many people took him at his word when he assured them he was a peacemaker and would pursue no overseas wars during his four year term.
I don't see how those bombs could penetrate a mountain , soil yes, but not a mountain
I think it's extremely naive to think this whole saga wasn't planned out in advance, Israel go in and wipe out the Iranian defences and then the US wipe out the nuclear facilities.
This isn't Israel forcing the US into a war ( there is no war, Iran are defenceless), it's a long coordinated plan to wipe out the perceived threat from Iran
Fair enough. You're entitled to think that of my opinion, because that's all it is, in an open discussion.
Dismissing it as propaganda though, would suggest you can't even be bothered to put in any effort to discuss the points raised.
Doubt Iran will be able to get even on this one if they have to rely on some lads running around the Yemeni desert with AKs and RPGs. That would only really serve to show how limited Iran appear to be, militarily.
Have they nothing to hit back directly with?
Social media isn't the real world, there will be very little real push back against Trump on this.
And that's not me saying he was right to do this
Yeah but they also took him on his word he would lower the cost of living, end the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 24hrs, and slew of others etc… It's like the American public like being lied to.
He will address the nation and say it's not a war, it's just 6 bombs dropped and nobody wants Iran to have a nuke. There will be no boots on ground, it's not like Iraq etc… and most of the public will nod their heads and be silent.
The Straits of Hormuz will be interesting over the next few days.
Like a proper open discussion could happen on this reddit-lite forum. 😂 No I'm not going to debate you on this.
Mod - warned for trolling
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/21/asia/pakistan-trump-nobel-peace-prize-nomination-intl
Timing is ipeccable.
Well your post he responded to wasn’t exactly level headed.
Weird stance.
"I don't like counter-points raised in a discussion so I refuse to debate them".
Why even bother posting then.
It sounds to me that you want a echo chamber.