Its minus 4c for every litre produced. Litres matter
which would you prefer
6000 litres at 4.5 fat and 4.0 protein
Or 10500 litres with the same %
With current nitrates rules a cow doing 6300 kg of milk at 9.5% solids would be 598 kg milk solids. It would take a bit of doing but if a farm is going to stay predominantly grazing much more achievable that trying to get to 9/10k litres
Coops pay us on the value of a kg of fat and protein and then deduct the volume charge, we probably should all just talk in kg of milk solids.
there’s no difference in milk price from a cow doing 6000l at 9.5% solids that a cow doing 10500 at 9.5%
Correct but if you go with kgs it muddies the water's re the fact that the most ebi bulls are going to be negative for production.........
Do you think the latter is within the realms of possibility though?
Very possible in the near future
With proper breeding I thinks it’s very achievable
It's very hard to hit 6300 every year without going over every second or third year and having to dry off early.
High output sounds great but what about the inputs including labour.
You'd ideally have to be fully housed and putting in 4 ton plus of meal, forage quality is to much of a variable year to year to support the above levels of solids, messed around zero-grazing last year instead of a tmr and it destroyed my solids for the summer bf/pr is running at 4.2-4.4bf/3.3-3.4 pr this June on silage and a 3 way mix of hulls/barley/maize meal versus 3.6-3.8bf/ 3.2-3.3 last year
you counter bad weather by making sure there is always quality grub in the yard …..drying off is a personal choice …nothing wrong with milking thru ….bluetongue
And tb are outside our control ….cows are surprising me this year with how well there milking …..weather has been near perfect as well tbf but addition of feeder here as well as fty in parlour has opend my eyes as to what cows are capable of
name one herd that is doing 10k litres at 4% protein. A lot of the jex herds are only getting towards that figure now after 20 years breeding for it. Holsteins will be a long time getting there because breeders are fixated on trying to get the prefect looking cow.
there’s none sure
but maybe there will be in the near future
since moving back to using international bulls the progress has been incredible- more milk and more %
And yet these bulls figures wouldn’t be as high as the Irish bulls yet they are outperforming them
Weather makes the year,
Last year they were out and milking great up to the 20th of November.
There are years when they come in early on silage they will dry up.
I'm talking about handy cows on handy farms, not lads drawing maize and feeding 8kgs of nuts, zero grazing or diet feeding. I have nothing against those but I'm talking a relatively low cost system, and when the grass goes, the milk goes
yes I would agree with you there. A bad September or October can do a big job on how long the milking year is for the majority of ppl
Then why make the comparison. Youre going to find it very hard to have the same % as farmers that are solely selecting for it and its too very different systems you’re talking about too with completely different costs. A 10000l herd won’t be getting much grass in the diet
the 10000 litre herd is eating the same amount of grass as the 6000 l herd
there has been a big push on holstien side of things to improve solids and to develop more polled genetics
things can move fast in these big herds with year round calving and embryo transfer programs
that’s where quality forage comes into it ….good quality forage should help maintain supply that time of year
it is in its hole 😂😂
A 6000l cows will milk off grass and 1t meal
A 10000l cow will need a lot more feed in the yard or she will fall apart or you won’t get your 10000l
awful lot of lads couldn’t care less mj. Just fill the pit. Look at how many let the good weather in may pass by without cutting the silage
she still eats the same amount of grass
you said that the 10000 litres cow won’t. Be getting much grass in the diet
they are eating 15-16 kg dm of grass every day just like the 6000 litre cow
these cows are all eating 16kg dm of grass per day
that is a select few cows. Not a herd. Every herd has top performers. Your herd is 8500 l not 10000l. How many 10000l herds are grazing ?
Plus 4 kg buffer and 8 kgs of meal
Was Radney herd not the first herd to hit 4%.....
GGrazed Silage ground bare here until early may. Cut yesterday. Just because its not cut in may doesn't mean its shite
Some Lads here don't know what wet land is or high rainfall area either for that matter. They're goldilocks farming…
there’s always exceptions but any silage that’s been cut around here in the last week isn’t going to make much milk or put much weight on stock
If it’s not in the coop report it doesn’t count
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