https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
The only reason I mentioned Gaza was the sheer number of bombs Israel dropped via planes on Gaza. I'm certainly not saying Israel will drop the same amount on Iran, which is over 1000 miles away. I'm simply stating that Israel is attacking Iran with bombs and I don't think they will run out of them before Iran run out of ballistic missiles.
If Iran want to take out a soft target in Israel, they can launch 50 missiles (about $250mil) and perhaps 5 get through, but the CEP is high they may not actually hit the target (some Iranian missiles have CEP ranging from 30m to 3km!). Compared to a single F15 with 6 JDAMS, hitting 6 targets with pinpoint accuracy for less than $1 million (excluding $100mil for the plane, but that's reusable)
Israel have shown they can accurately hit targets in Lebanon and now Iran with minimal civilian casualties, they won't be aiming to level all of Iran like they have done in Gaza.
"Iranian security forces located a three-story Israeli drone factory inside Iran, the semi-official IRGC-linked Tasnim news agency reports.
According to the report, Tehran believes other sites are present in the country, and security forces are operating against them."
some serious planning gone into Fridays attack by israel
I agree with this post but equating the bombs Israel has dropped on Gaza with them being able to do the same to Iran doesn't stack up. Gaza is on their doorstep. Iran is a long flight away.
As you say, if Israel is not launching ground based missiles, it's air power alone that they have as the advantage. I've no clue about detailed military strategies but making some sort of equivalency between Gaza and Iran doesn't make sense to me. And if Israel is fighting on multiple fronts, that must stretch resources to the limit - especially when Israeli reservists are now refusing to fight.
It's certain that more civilians will die on both sides - and that's just more human misery stacked upon the abhorrent campaign of Israel in Gaza.
As you well know, Israelis have no issue stating and writing graffiti "gas the Arabs".
But at this moment in time, there is only one State in the region who currently has active military campaigns against its neighbours - Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, The West Bank, East Jerusalem.
And they are all actively fulfilling the Likud mantra of "between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty".
And don't forget, in this current campaign with Iran, Israel attacked first. Regardless of whatever anyone in the region says, it is only Israel that is acting out its warmongering.
”Alleged genocide”. A genocide that is recognised as a genocide by people who have devoted their lives to studying genocide. Thanks for your input Sean but I will put more stock in the opinion of experts in genocide rather than its defenders.
Correct, this thread is about Israel vs. Iran. However it should be noted that Iran is actively fuelling the largest land war in Europe by supplying weapons to the aggressor that are mainly used against civilians.
People in both Israel and Ukraine tonight need to be ready to run to bomb shelters at a seconds notice for the same reason - Iranian drones and missiles. That should make this conflict a very simple one to pick sides on.
As to your alleged genocide, do you think that the Ayatollahs and their whole "Death to Israel" schtick give two s***s about how Israel treats the Palestinians?
Israel are currently striking surface to surface missiles in Iran.
RIP to all those souls lost to this conflict :(
Mod - please keep it civil, other poster are not the topic.
They don't need to launch missiles. A regular ballistic missile can only hit a single target, where a plane can hit multiple targets. Obviously over time the number of sorties will reduce as there's less and less targets. But Israel are certainly not as limited as Iran. Iran depends on their finite ballistic missiles which are so inaccurate they are struggling to take out Israel's air defense. Quality over quantity!
Is that you would have liked them to have done?
The reason he broke the ceasefire is well known - it was purely political. He needed the vote of Ben-Gvir (a convicted terrorist) to pass the budget. The quid pro quo was the war to recommence.
Hamas have been a busted flush for well over a year. There was no way they could attack anything or anyone. 80% of Gaza is in full military control of the IDF.
Like this current campaign against Iran, this is exactly the same plan of the alleged War Criminal (at large) - keep himself in power. Especially as he was having a lot of trouble with his govt. about to fall. Also, this campaign will stall his domestic criminal case for corruption yet again.
HeadInTheBog more like
You have no idea what you are talking about
Gaza is on their doorstep - boots on the ground, artillery, battle tanks, drones, navy etc delivering many of those bombs.
Israel's campaign in Iran would presumably be by air alone. Not sure if Israel has the capability (or will) to launch missiles directly?
And there is another thread for Russia - perhaps your post would have been better there? Regardless. Israel have announced that their campaign against Iran is now #1, Gaza being #2. Which they are ramping up whilst the world is looking the other way.
Certainly, more civilians will suffer at the hands of Netanyahu who is simply saving his political skin.
key iranian officials still being taken out
"Iranian intelligence chief killed in strikes - report
The head of Iran's intelligence agency and his deputy were killed in Israeli strikes today, the state-owned Iranian news agency Tasnin reports.
The agency says Mohammad Kazemi, the head of the Intelligence Organisation of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), led one of the two main intelligence agencies of the country."
I'm sure that's absolutely hilarious in your bog.
There was me thinking you were referring to your post👍
Lies.
He broke the cease fire because Hamas were going to use it to stage another attack.
If Israel wanted to commit genocide they could have done it a lot quicker and cheaper but do carry on with your fairytale.
unfortunately Israel’s plan to end the conflict is to flatten Gaza and eradicate all civilians
The US, UK and France are defending genocidal Israel from the retaliation in the latest war they started.
The problem is Iran will run out of missiles soon enough. Also unless Iran can inflict heavy damage on Israel( which we clearly see it can't) the Israeli public won't turn on Nethanyu. The vast majority of their missiles are being intercepted. Iran are the like the lad shouting hold me back on a Friday night. I am no fan of the current Israeli government, but I don't see the point in denying the evidence in front of our eyes that Iran are no match for Israel militarily
Iran can't even be getting Russia's best AA stuff since Russia surely has to hold that back to defend against Ukrainian drone attacks both in Russians cities and the Ukrainian eastern front.
I think the poster who said Iran is scrambling behind the scenes for a way out is correct. Israeli jets can now fly in Tehran unopposed. Iran's top military leaders have been eliminated. It's not that easy to replace these people. If the Iranians were truly capable of a consumerate response Israel would likely not have attacked in the first place. For me these attacks by Israel are another demonstration of just how **** the Russian air defense systems actually are when matched against advanced western weaponry.
If this goes on much longer the regime could indeed fall. The twisted Irony of Bibi claiming he has the best interest of civilians at heart is a sick joke. I thought graphene was amongst the hardest substances known to man but the neck of this guy is even stronger!
Netanyahu broke the ceasefire in Gaza to remain in power and this attack on Iran (during talks with the US about their nuclear capabilities) is for the exact same reason. He wants conflict. He wants war. Because without it he's vulnerable. As long as chaos is happening he remains safe.
That is the only reason why Israel is attacking Iran now.
Israel using car bombs just like they did in Lebanon a generation ago but everyone else are terrorists. Shameful so called “democracy”.
iran is looking like a target rich environment too - reports the foreign ministry now has been hit
Yes, but my point is that millions of Israelis are having to run to air raid shelters every few hours, including in the middle of the night (big missile attack on Tel Aviv at 2.45am last night). This rarely if ever happened during the Israeli attack on Gaza.
