https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
Iran will never be able to build one, it's being watched closely, because...
Perhaps or perhaps weaponising the nuclear program is pretty much a guarantee that Israel attacks that program, the same way they did with Syria and Iraq.
Israel has the bomb, Iran doesn't - it's not "fair" as such but that's reality. Everyone knows this, including Iran. They could argue they have a right to weaponise but considering their stance toward Israel - it's not going to happen on Israel's watch.
Iran always has the option to come in from the cold, take baby steps towards forging ties with Israel, stop endlessly attacking it via proxies. Saudi has shown that Israel that this sort of path is gradually possible. But the regime in Tehran don't seem keen on that path, on the contrary.
Everyone knows the situation, everyone knows the game, everyone knows Israel's doctrine. The regime in Iran seem intent on sticking their arm in the cage and then blaming the tiger, and then call it unfair - as if it were going to be any other way.
Israel has been killing Palestinians a long time before the Iranian revolution-
It's very odd that ones like U need to dream up an excuse for IDF murder of civilians-
Iran can not protect its civilians-
Israel can not protect its civilians-
It's taking Homelander a while to work this out-
If they were, I'm struggling to understand what this has to do with your apparent enjoyment of the death of innocent civilians.
Maybe this approach might work or maybe Iran will be thinking that this attack is proof that building at atom bomb is the only way of keeping Israel from attacking in the future.
Lebanon; Hezbollah, Iranian Mullahs export version
Syria: ditto
Gaza: Sunni Muslims backed by Iran. (Hamas must be really desperate to take there money because there problems are a long way from over if Israel is ever destroyed)
Houthis; backed by Iran
Iran.
Can you see a common thread here.
This is a religious conflict which commenced with the Iranian revolution.
The Mullahs are a stain on a proud Persian Culture. People can see past their non existent women/gay rights, absence of religious freedom etc etc all because of their hatred of Israel. Problem manage to see past Iranian military hardware in Ukraine as well.
Mainly by people on the left who lose their sh1te when Christian culture differs from their view on such topics.
Modern day politics is like following a football team.
You evidently miss a lot
israel shouldn’t be using civilians as human shields.
and that Israel is basically run by hardline far right zionists also plays a part
Its why we had/have the axis of evil (de-stable / incapacitate) campaign and Arab spring etc. It was to weaken those countries so Israel could then attack. Same with Iran, isolate them for 10-20 years and then attack them. They are the last on that axis, which is why we are seeing what we are seeing now. Bibi has spoken about this loads of times since the late 80s.
Indeed, due to their history and other factors they don't want to take the risk - they've hit Syrian programs multiple times
Even the most ardent critic of Israel can't say with a straight face that Hezbollah or the Houthis or Hamas, if handed a biological or chemical (or worse) weapon, wouldn't use it on the Israeli populace.
It's Israeli doctrine, fair or unfair, and has been for a very long time. Every one knows the score.
I do I just missed the statement you are trying to push through.
That appears to be an acceptable view from a lot of people
They did it in the 1980s to Saddam, when he was an American Proxy against Khomeini, when they bombed the French-designed reactor at Osirak.
Israel is always going to do this if one of their less-than-stable neighbours tries to get the bomb.
You clearly do not read the thread so the posts to read are 385, 386, 389 and 391
Based on the sheer number of missiles they have - it's technically possible, but yeah the fall-out would be severe and would probably be a one off. It would also have required good coordination with their proxies (Hamas, Hezbollah, etc) but those are largely out of the picture. Yeah I agree, I don't think Iran have many cards. The surprising thing is that Israel appear to have many more cards than people thought.
At the moment a lot of the launches and rhetoric seem to be symbolic and for optics rather than real damage. Hopefully it stays that way and dies down.
Oh, on the other thread you are soo much against violence etc.
And then you come up with this here, laughable.
And the statement is?
You like seeing people being killed?
You sick freak.
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Ya, always great watching innocents die. 👍
They are unlikely to have the capacity to launch a barrage intense enough to completely overwhelm air defenses to the point of causing major damage, and their stockpiles are limited.
Israel has probably also destroyed a lot of launch sites in recent days too and strikes are continuing today.
I don't think Iran has many cards at this point. Israeli air force is operating basically unchallenged and unlike Iran they can hit targets with precision missiles at will.
Medicine about as effective as slapping a plaster on an axe wound.
was brilliant watching Tel Aviv get some of its own medicine last night.
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Indeed, if Iran want to do damage casualty wise, they probably can, but it would involve expending a large amount of long range munitions all at once, to saturate and overwhelm Israeli defense. So far they haven't done that, which would imply they are keeping that card for a bigger escalation.
As chaotic as it seems, everything is still quite measured at the moment.
Very straight forward statement
I think Israel used. drones to destroy Iran's air defences before they sent in 200 planes to bomb dozens of targets They have planned this attack for years. They seem to know where all Iran's top commanders live and where all the nuclear facilitys are located . The problem is the iron dome is maybe 98 per cent effective It only takes a few missiles to get thru to cause civilian casualties in apartments or random buildings . Iran has 1000s of missiles and drones It has the capacity to make1000s of drones or buy them from Russia . I don't think Iran could stand up to Israel in a full scale war but they could cause alot of damage .
Multiple Iranian leaders have explicitly stated they want the destruction of Israel. Iran has been firing missiles at and attacking Israel, a nuclear armed neighbour, indirectly for decades. Iran has stated their nuclear programme is peaceful, but there have been signs that it isn't, so I can understand why Israelis (from a small densely packed country) don't want to take that risk or future risk (including a possibly more fundamentalist regime in Iran)
It makes sense from an Israeli perspective to setback, stall or wipe out the Iranian nuclear programme if it's showing any signs of weaponisation.
I've defended Iran many times in the past, was a big supporter of the 2015 peace deal (and Rouhani) but the current regime are unpleasant and it's unsurprising to see Israel finally reacting.
(I predicted that Israel would turn it's attention to Iran, which could possibly lead to war, but indeed it's happening sooner than I thought it would)
Iran launched hundreds of ballistic missiles at a city with a population of 500 thousand and killed a few civilians.
You think that's an example of a city with "no protection"?
Iran is an example of what happens when you have "no protection". Your air defenses and military infrastructure gets decimated, your military leadership gets gutted.
People who let their dislike of Israel infuse a bizarre new alternate reality into their mind really add nothing to any discussion.
Why have Hamas fired rockets into Israel for decades? Palestinians are oppressed on their own land.
