https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/13/israel-iran-strikes-defence-minister-tehran-middle-east-live
Reports stating that Israel have launched an attack against Iran
Well the Irish are supposed to be descended form Noah via Mil Espaine, but I wouldn't count on Bibi giving me a few acres.
Never said they were not.
But Israel's defensive AA batteries are not on top of apartment blocks. They aren't in Iran either for that matter, but they are in Tehran same as Tel Aviv.
Looking through western social media, the lack of sympathy for Israel over the bombing of Tel Aviv tonight is incredibly striking. Many even throwing the Zionist mantra of "Don't start a war you can't finish", which they have churned out daily for the last two years re. Gaza, right back at them.
Why is an anti aircraft missile position not a legitimate target? Go on, take your time
DNA evidence you mean which the 'Israelis' refuse to do….
What makes them think that Israel can't finish it? Or god forbid they even try to? Ideally de-escalation will prevail between all sides.
Those American jets / bombs did some damage to Irans nuclear capability and Irans military personnel- ( sorry it was Israeli jets / weapons-)-
Iraq fell-
Lybia fell-
Syria fell-
Guess Iran is next-
That's what they effectively did to Ukraine and look how having no effective deterrent worked out for them
I do think there is a massive disconnect between what western governments and media are saying about the attack on Iran and what ordinary people think. The former are clearly shills for Israel and Zionism, but the ordinary public are largely having none of it (even quite a few MAGA types in the US are very uncomfortable with it).
Yes, a neighbouring nuclear power attacked them.
See any similarities?
Israel bombing Palestinians civilians is wrong.
Iran bombing Israeli civilians is wrong.
All the people cheering on the religious extremist Iranian government here need to give their head a wobble.
You obviously don't understand English if you choose to mis represent what I said
Really? You think that there is no archeological evidence for "Gazans"? Where do you believe they sprung from then?
The DNA, Literary and Archaeology to hand would support the theory that the majority of people in the Levant, of Palestinians and Semitic extraction are descended from people that have been there for millennia. That the majority of shifts in religion were as a result of conversion. That as empires rose and fell, so did the predominant religion rather than wholesale replacement of the population.
Jews claiming a right of return to a land their ancestors left a millennia or more ago, have no more right to the land, than I do to a fjord side holiday home in Norway based on some of my ancestors being Norwegian vikings.
I would say more it's more lack of sympathy for the Zionists than active support for the Iranians (people in the West don't really have much reason to be supporters of Iran or its geopolitical aims).
You mention the Iranian regime — but not a word about Iranian citizens, who’ll suffer most if this escalates.
Just like in Gaza or Tel Aviv, it’s not governments who pay the price when missiles fall — it’s ordinary people.
If we’re going to talk about “wrong,” maybe start there.
Twitter reporting Iran getting hit again
You're entirely correct.
In point of fact the Iranian people have been suffering for decades under the yoke of that regime also.
The reaction from Israel will be interesting. Hopefully they leave the innocents alone.
Iran seems to be short on support from its neighbours as well.
Nobody wins in these situations, except the likes of Raytheon etc...
I understand very well
I never once said they are not, and I've no idea why you're suggesting I did.
I pointed out when it comes to Israel's apparent "hypocrisy", I said there's a difference between military infrastructure in urban areas, and military infrastructure embedded within civilian buildings within said urban area.
An AA battery in an urban area is completely legit and normal. An AA battery, for example, on top of an apartment block is absolutely not.
Israel, and every other military in the world, having infrastructure in an urban setting, is not remotely the same as either regular or irregular forces having command posts, offensive, or defensive weapons within actual civilian or public buildings, be they residential, healthcare, public, whatever.
Israel have demonstrated that any AA is a legitimate target irrespective of where it is
Don't start a war you can't finish?
We already know Israel has obliterated Iran's limited air defense network and severely damaged it's nuclear facilities as well as a whole range of other military targets like launchers and air force installations.
Anyone who thinks a few missiles hitting Tel Aviv is remotely comparable is living in a different reality.
This is like a boxer landing one glancing punch in the tenth round after taking 150 headshots in the preceeding nine rounds.
Why did Israel feel justified in attacking Iran?
Missiles, both crew served and MANPADs are quite commonly placed on highrise roofs. For effective anti aircraft coverage and as much height and vision advantage as possible. Even the Brits placed rapier missiles on apartments as part of their Olympics defence plan in 2012.
It's very murky. It might be because Iran's being threating Israel with oblivion for a few decades, funding and supplying Hamas and Hezbollah to wage proxy war for decades, and attempting to build nuclear weapons.
Could be something else though. Very ambigious.
Probably because Iran is run by religious fundamentalists who cite the destruction of Israel and by extension all Jews as one of its top priorities.
Because Iran was an existential threat to Israel if they continued their nuclear programme.
Cmon now you know damn well if ISIS/Al Qaeda had a pop at Israel they'd be celebrated. Once someone is killing Israeli's it'd be welcomed. Its a great chance for someone to get great PR.
Because they have the US and other western governments by the short snd curlies and have got away with decades of war crimes and ignoring international law.
I would say the context is different. The UK wasn't expecting a nation on nation war to erupt at the Olympics. South Korea also isn't at war.
Generally in an actual war, regular militaries don't put weapons systems on occupied civilian buildings, because it makes said buildings legit targets, and in the event of war, would probably evacuate said buildings if the weapons systems remain in place.
“Israel and by extension all Jews” wow! Iran has never threatened “all Jews”
“Elimination of Israel does not mean the elimination of the Jewish people. Eliminating Israel means eliminating the imposed Zionist regime and allowing the people of Israel — whether Muslim, Christian or Jewish — to choose their own government… Iran does not want the Jewish people harmed and the Jewish community in Iran lives in complete security.” Khamenei (November 15, 2019
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