An adviser was saying it to me the other day. Some new disease around. He's a but dramatic anyway. Loves having the big news and drama.
aka worms??
Spread by flies apparently.
You wonder is there a positive correlation between the farms now experiencing this this year and had they calves with summer scour syndrome in the past?
Trying to blame it on outside factors when it was themselves done this.
Please expand on your point on causing summer scour themselves please. Sound
Isn't summer scour mainly caused by excess nitrogen for a developing rumen
It's been said that and overdosing with wormers breeding resistant parasites. Immunity in animals are shot to pieces and then the farmers themselves developing these new resistant parasites just by listening to salespeople. Land, animals effected because of the action of the farmer. An animal only requires one wormer in its first year of life. And that's it that's the worming program. If you're gone beyond that you've fecked up by mineral availability in the forage, breeding resistant parasites by trying to micro manage creating a monster on land and in animal, the biota of this is passing from cow to calf. You've entered the black hole of Calcutta and there's no way out.
So your strategy is to let them build an immunity to the worms. We are always being told to dose them for the first year but it certainly seem logical that having been exposed once and then clearing them out with a dose should do the job.
How is that working for you. Getting on OK ?
Anyone any experience using crushed sandstone on roadways, was a 50ft crater, at the end of a field covering 2 acres that was meant to of been used as the source of sandstone for the local mansion in the 1800's, dug out the edge of it yesterday and came across this
Vein of pure sandstone 8-10 ft deep
Re worms: the free FEC test scheme is open this year again. It got me into the habit of taking samples before dosing when it was introduced a few years back. The consultation with the vet was fairly standard but it’s a free test and a good habit to get into
https://animalhealthireland.ie/programmes/parasite-control/parasite-control-tasah-consult/
My strategy would take 10 to 15 years of developing immunity and culling those that fall foul of that regime.
I very nearly got away with not worming the 0 to 1 year olds last year. Had to give in though as I just had too many animals from being locked up in the test.
It's very sad when you read of farmers worming milking cows. It's short term gain with long term pain.
Isn't sandstone what they use on roadways in Cork and in Moorepark. Telling everyone it's a great job.
@jaymla627
You’ve struck gold
I went 3 years with minimal dosing following protocol ((dose based on worm and milk test)…went ok till one year when I got hit with a complete **** storm in late may ….cows got very loose,coughing …big drop off in milk and cows developing pneumonia we took dings but doses everything on vets advice ….very high worm burden and without flushing cows lungs big lungworm burden too ….pools of dung taken from cows at dry off previous December and no dose based on it ……cows never recovered peak ,and loads of repeats .now everything covered with albex at dry off and eprinex late may/early June for cows
Calves I still try dose as little as possible ….they don’t go out till mid/late may and not dosed until I see enough **** asses and coughing ….usually late August into September and it’s a cheap down the neck dose …dosed again a month after housing ….vet is seen more of what I experienced with my cows …some because of overdosing …more because lads are pushing this resistance /no dose too far
That's my own heel. Any cure for mortellaro?
Have 15 acres of it, the depth of first bit of digging it could be extremely valuable for building stone
I think it's really coming from dosing cows in calf. The calf born already needs dosing to have any worm resistance. Keep and breed that calf and it gets worse in every generation after.
If one has to dose though make sure enough is used and over the weight.
The rags won't write all this though as that's admitting their advertisers have sold customers a pup and wrecked herds and the soil where it comes from. Possibly making them and salespeople liable.
That's a factory job.
@Grueller O'keeffes hand cream, comes in a green tub, I get it in the local co-op savage stuff
And proper socks
Dosing adult cows is a relatively recent practice, comprised resistance from previous overdosing, grassland management, and even unintended genetic susceptibility are probably all factors.
I'd practise similar to you, it's usually fluke that catches me in the autumn, especially rumen fluke, although I was worms last year. I'd say that was my own fault with grazing. Touch wood, no issues in cows yet.
Had the same episode as mahoney a couple of years ago. Vets advise was to keep dosing. Using injectable stuff with no milk withdrawal. Last year I was walking the heifers daily waiting for them to cough. I only dosed them once. The neighbour was told by teagasc man the advice now was not to wait for coughing and just keep dosing every few weeks. I had to dose the bulling heifers as they were coughing last week. I was talking to the vet about dosing at housing. I thought the old way was to wait a couple of weeks and then dose he said just dose straight away. It's a bollox that the advice changes all the time. I'd imagine what saymyname mentioned about resistance is true but not dosing is viewed by the professionals as half mad ted
Grueller , If you can keep it covered with adhesive tape, not easy where it is, keep it covered for a week, it should heal perfectly
cheno unction is great for those type of cuts and especially very fast to heal cracked heels. Available in all good veterinary stores.
Summer scour is a disease vets made up for calves that werent reared properly.They couldnt tell farmers the truth as theyed get offended
TThere's a farmer comes into vets were daughter works nearly every week for a tub of cheno unction. He puts it on every cow at every milking, all year round....
What way would ruu compare nowadays, a lad found a straw or two and was wondering if he would be worth using
there was a woman selling socks at the highland show a couple of years ago. Her sales pitch included how they never had to be washed and wouldn’t smell. They would nearly clip your toenails the way she was going on. IIRC she was charging north of 80e a pair!
That’s fair hardship considering a lot of teat sprays have an additive to keep teats in top condition.
There used to be a lady in Cork selling seriously expensive tiny pots of magic nipple cream to breastfeeding mothers.
I used to tell my wife that she might be filling the tiny pots out of a big bucket of Cheno unction 🤑🤑🤑
You'd wonder if he's enjoying it a bit too much 😂
