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The most complete coverage I've seen specifically around the emails end of things. https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/mayo-and-jarlath-burns-condemn-toxic-online-campaign-aimed-at-county-board/a1780821768.html
Any screenshots for those of us not using that app?
I saw some statement from the press release pertaining to what sounds like a campaign of harrassment against a number of adults? All sounds very weird and sinister.
Maurice Brosnan is relaying stuff from the county board meeting with Jarlath Burns and Tom Ryan. Some strange story about 5 mayo players living in Dublin.
https://x.com/m_brosnan
Hope Kevin recovers quickly.
Statements have been released by the County board and Kevin MCStay. He is stepping away for the foreseeable future. Rochford to take over the team
The sideline is the problem there with so many not playing this yr,should not have got it in the 1st place.
Hope Kevin recovers okay, much more important than football.
Not unexpected but the ladies were well beaten in the connacht final today
Still no statement/post from the county board on Kevin. Would have thought they would have put up something, even just a general good wishes and in our thoughts type message. Hope he's doing OK.
100%, flat out on a hospital bed brings a complete sense of what is important and what is BS. Irrespective of the opinions in terms of Mayo, I hope he gets back well.
Puts things in perspective and maybe the pressure he was under. Hopefully just a precaution and he is ok
Kevin McStay is in hospital. I hope it is nothing serious and he is back to full health soon.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41638579.html
Media reporting that Kevin has been hospitalised due to a medical incident today. Awful. Hope everything is okay. Bigger things than football.
Any thing in whats going around about mayo having to sell some of the land they where gifted to finance there loan?
The financial situation is pretty dire but the current board seem to be doing their best with the debt burden. The COE will take a long time but it will be done because it has to be done. Would be great to see some untapped business come in to sponser parts of it and speed up the process.
Someone like Horan as director of football would be revolutionary but won't happen as it would need to be a full time paid position with further resources given to implement the directors plans.
Ha…it’s always about money!!!
But do they have money to put proper structures in place. It’s hard to trust the CB to deliver anything big tbh. They still have a fair debt by all accounts and I would think they don’t have the money. They can talk all they want about structures but if they don’t have the funds to deliver…it makes them look ridiculous
Agreed Mayo have been in 11 AI finals in 35 years, only Dublin and Kerry have been in more , of course you want good structures but if the structures have been bad for decades, then surely it’s management coaching senior players that is getting us to finals??
What’s clear is that , yes we need to improve coaching but we also need to improve in management. You can’t blame it all on coaching nor can you blame it all on management it’s more likely somewhere in the middle of the two.
I'm not saying the structures shouldn't improve - they should. But the argument that it has and currently is holding Mayo back is weak. Since 2012, 13 years, Mayo have contested 6 All Ireland senior finals (seven with the replay). That's nearly one every second year. Even Kerry have contested less finals in the same period! Mayo's problem has been winning on the particular day, unlikely that a centre of excellence would have been the difference.
The current team have lost faith in the management, that is very sad to see for all concerned. And really it will be a largely wasted three years in terms of developing the players/team, other than two good days out in Salthill and in Killarney.
https://www.westernpeople.ie/sport/gaa/croke-parks-top-brass-to-attend-mayo-gaa-meeting_arid-58833.html
Interesting to see what this is about
On Horan as a potential new manager, I'd rather see him in as chairman or CEO or whatever; unlikely to happen though I'd say
Horan said he is not directly relating the problem to the particular Cavan game but it's clear he is speaking in general about the senior team and all ourunderage teams. What else could he be talking about? You seem to be creating a disconnect between systems and performance on the field.
“We haven’t built structures or laid down foundations like we should have over the last decade. We are behind so many other counties, what they have done and how they have progressed"
He's talking about the way things are now not just in the future. He raised this 10 years ago and nothing was done and here we are with a team outside the top 8.
Your statement that the structure discussion is for another day llustrates the whole problem. Supporters wanting the quick fix change in manager doesn't work. It's 83 years and counting since sam maguire came here. Comparisons with Armagh are irrelevant. They went and won it.
Horan is not saying that at all. He is simply using the opportunity to complain about the structures in place in Mayo. He literally said he is not conflating the Cavan result with his structures point.
In my opinion, it's debatable whether Mayo have a team strong enough team to win an All Ireland but the debate swings towards the 'yes they have' when you see that Armagh won the All Ireland last year and they are easily as limited/talented a team/squad as Mayo. Also, Galway got to the final last year and fell over the line against Mayo in Salthill.
The overriding story here is not structures (that is for another day) it is how poor the management team are doing. The players have practically stopped playing for them. That's the story.
There would probably be an initial bounce under a new management as there often is.
A slightly more direct approach but the new rules do not suit the skill set of our players. There is a lack of pace and size in many positions and I'm have doubts that our forwards are able to win long early ball. I hope I'm proved wrong.
Cant agree with that. I don't think any management can get this squad anywhere near the top 4. I think the next management will be a acting in a holding role for a few years as we wait for younger players to come through.
if we got the right manager and back room team, some of those players would be transformed in no time.
We most certainly have the players in the county to be top 4 under the right regime. Who is that right regime I don’t know
I agree with the fact that we have massive deficiencies within the squad.
Do you think that no manager could get a better tune out of the current squad though?
McStay had the available players fit and prepared enough to beat a limited team like Cavan any day of the week. Never mind acute levels. At a basic level we have no intercounty standard midfielder, no centre half forward and no left footed freetaker. That's why we lost the connaught final. It's a shocking indictment of the underage coaching system. I don't like the style of play we have now either but changing managers and the style of play is just moving chairs around.
Yes
Ya, boxes of weetabix down the back of the couch.
Is that a typo? I presume you mean a cereal loser?
Oshea is near on 20 years playing with Mayo. Playing good last few years but is 35 old now and is a serial laser when comes business end of the championship. Why presist with him? As Einstein said doing same thing over and over and expecting different results is insanity
The operations of the board is directly related to the state of the current
Not at the acute level we're talking about last Sunday; unless you think that Mcstay is getting the best out of the current squad?
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