Reminds me of the time people were demanding proof that manual returns take up extra staff time.
Or that taking containers in store for manual returns is fine from a hygiene standpoint because shoppers are smelly anyway.
Or who could forget the classic. Prove that people need space to store containers at home when before drs they could just crush them and throw into a wheelie bin.
And Im being called dim and told to cop on 🤣. This thread is some craic at times.
Just please tell me where you are forced to do anything?
JUST DO THAT PLEASE!
You tell me?
what is "step by step"?
I think mr capital letters needs to take a step back from this thread 😂😂
Another with the Ɍ logo, but not in the scheme. I did buy it in the North in fairness
No-ones debating you can get your money back. Its about not having to go into the shop to get it.
It would be so much more convenient to go to an RVM, return your containers, scan the QR code on screen (we've seen from RVM manuals that this function is readily available) with a mobile app and get your refund to payment card or bank account. Before people start testifying that their granny doesn't have a smart phone it would be an additional option for those that want this refund method. No messing about with vouchers.
However right now gombeenery has dictated customers must print a voucher and go into a shop with it to get their own money back. It shouldn't be this way.
The money would not arrive into accounts unless the financial institutions agreed. And they would only agree to get involved in the technology if it was to their advantage. Maybe millions of transactions adding a few Euro to accounts is not something they want.
Banks like money.
Or are banks now the same as these customers who "dont want their deposits back"?
If they need a sweetener add a minimum withdrawal amount or take it from the 54,000,000+ euro Re-Turn are getting annually from customers.
Banks like profits. They are the ultimate gombeen men. I wouldn't give them a cent of our deposit money.
Dont give banks any deposit money that Re-Turn currently has to make the scheme more convenient for customers?
Sounds about right from you. Im sure it will be spent wisely on other things like more bin surrounds 🤣
I'd rather that than giving it to the banks. Just so that cranks can get their money back by the same method they used for the purchase.
Honestly, you press a button and you get a receipt. You don't have to print it out yourself.
You use that receipt to offset the cost of your shopping.
What is so difficult to understand?
Nobody has answered that question.
As regards your comment about QR codes. Give me strength!
Do you really think that's easier than just using a receipt?
I've 17 months worth of stuff to return soon. Will be interesting to see the total
We're being completely rinsed in this country. Nothing to do with DRS of course.
jezuz, I had 3-4 months worth of (mostly) tins to return and it came in just shy of €40, took about half an hour and one of the machines crapped out after the first 10 cans. Have fun 🤣
Not only is it easier its better for the environment. No unnecessary vouchers. Since thats what this scheme is about? The environment? Isn't it??
Print a receipt after every 5 euros or so in case the machine dies when you've loads in.
You could do a little bit of planning. One of my local Tescos has four machines, and I never saw a queue. Somewhere like that would be better than a single machine. But if someone comes along with a few bottles, just print your voucher and let them away.
It would be wise to print a voucher after say every 50 containers anyway. There is no way of knowing how full the machine is before you start. You could combine a shopping trip with the returns, but the vouchers are as good as cash for as long as you keep them in good condition.
Not when the product increased by the value of the deposit.
If a can costs 1 euro before DRS and it goes up to 1.15 after DRS, then you have increased the price by 15 cent.
1 euro previously bought the can plus its contents.
Can plus contents now equals 1.15.
Thats a price increase. A school kid could tell you same.
The child can bring the can to a machine and it will refund them 15 cents. That brings the price back down to 1 euro.
It does not.
1 euro was the price of the can plus the contents, before DRS.
1 euro is the price of the contents only, after DRS.
This is a price increase.
You are correct
Lucky we've a big empty shed.
We actually don't have that much to return for the timespan involved, as neither of us drink very much, we don't buy fizzy stuff and most of it is miwadi bottles
We usually buy wine online by the box and it seems the wine supplier has been selling off their back inventory of stuff as it hasn't had the return label on it
Your 17 month collection is going to confuse the bean counters who insist on finding out how many refunds are unclaimed.
That shows the importance of returning the can to get the refund. Otherwise you will be 15 cents out of pocket. That is the system I use, and the scheme has never cost me a cent.
Wine boxes are not in the DRS scheme.
Sante 🙂
You are still 15 cent out of pocket, even if you bother returning the can.
The lemonade (contents of your can) costs you a euro after DRS, when it used to cost 85c, before DRS.
Before DRS :: Can 15c, liquid 85c = purchase price of 1 euro.
After DRS :: Can 15c, liquid 1 Euro = purchase price of 1.15 euro.
You missed out the final step there. After DRS, bring the empty can to a machine and get 15c.
I did not.
If I return the can, I have paid a euro for the lemonade.
Before DRS, the lemonade cost me 85c.
After DRS, the lemonade has cost me the same amount as the lemonade plus the can used to cost me, before DRS.
Does that mean that if you don't return the can, you are paying 30c more than before DRS?
Wrong!
Can plus lemonade was 85 cents.
It still is 85 cents. DRS is 15 cents which you can get back.
