Tbh I don’t know…I don’t know many lads around Carnaross mart. It’s not very local to me…
I saw them alright. Huge cattle but no fat cover at all. Should be super cattle to sell in 60 days. Buyer will likely do very well with them if the prices rise a little as expected.
If they had more fat cover do you reckon they would have made more?
@Conversations 3 Carnaross would have a good few Northern buyers. But from what I am hearing most cattle fit to kill that are sold there are online for the meat factories.
Sure doesn't Mallon that owns it from Liffey meats own it
Yes Frank Mallon owns Liffey meats and his son James owns Carnaross & Mounthrath marts as well as Vestar livestock exporters. Between them they have a fair influence on the cattle trade..
If they going north Mallon has no influence in it.
Like the general populist beef prices are creeping up, however prices of up to 8.50 are to be had by a select few. Folks bargin hard.
The cartel should have been taken to the cleaners by the ccpc for the unilateral cut in prices for ordinary Joe farmer in the last couple of weeks. Heads had to have been got together to achieve that concensus, many of them have different markets. There's Waltrose, coop, Tesco, Asda, Salisbury etc. Surely they don't sing off the same hym sheet. The is a trend 'keep them at 1euro behind the UK price'. As for 'the rag', they haven't a clue.
Bargin hard folks that's all I'll say.
I know of one dealer from donegal buys alot of cattle for the mallons in all the marts up there
It’s really funny when you think about it. They own the mart, they’ve men buying cattle in there for their feedlot so It’s basically the mart bidding against its own customers, the same customers who then bring their fat cattle to liffey to kill. They’ve a good cut out of a high number of cattle. And they can’t seem to spend a penny fixing up a few gates in the mart.
@Cavanjack yes spending money on maintenance & staff seems to be a low priorities alright. And with something on in it nearly every day they are raking in the commission.
I don't think so, they were ideal for a feed lot, huge frames to carry weight.
Worse than merely printing what “industry sources” tell them, the IFJ seems to believe that’s how the market works - despite there being zero competition between supposed competitors in the market.
€7.60 for steers this week, talk of a cut next week.
The factories are all pushing this together, and some are killing 3 days next week.
I'm going to the mart, **** this bullshit.
When the real shortage comes will all the factories tow the line or will someone break ranks?
I have a few finished continentals 750kg plus. U grade and most R+
Am I better off at the mart now or the factory?
I'd be hoping to get 3k+
mart
I would have to say at this stage mart,I know of a man local enough to me sent big weight continental heifers to the mart,I have never heard of this man doing this before as he has a neighbour an agent for one of the big three & has always used him.
Waiting on an agent to call me back.
There's 2 overage just so I might bring 4 to the mart next week and see.
Should I batch them in 2's or singles?
I'll be honest I've never sold at the mart before.
2 overage together & the other pair together assuming these cattle are in around the same weight.The highest price I ever got for fit cattle was in the mart however I cannot say they would not have done better in the factory.My strong preference is for cattle to be loaded at 8am & 1 hours journey to factory where they are sent straight up the line however I cannot be robbed which you sometimes get a feeling has happened.
Don't sell in singles in the mart anyway. The lads will only divide them up between themselves.
Mart all day long,let the factories fight over them.overage wont matter a sh1t at the moment the same as movements dont matter.That was just a stick to beat the farmer when beef was plentyful ,now the shoe is on the other foot long may it continue
I’d advise going to the mart
I’d advise you to sell in the mart, I never batch up cattle I don’t see the point tbh…I’d go with single numbers…
Has the online bidding not put a stop to that finger wagging shite.
To an extent it has.. but you still have the lads around the ring trying to call cattle. There is 1 lad I know & he stands looking right at the camera with his hand out as if someone on line isn't going to bid just cause he said he wants them. He does be mad to find out who does be bidding against him on line, it's funny listening to him.
On grouping / pairing cattle, if cattle match so within 50 ish kgs of one another, similar quality, breeds, type and age then yes it makes sense to group them. But if they don't then don't do it. I do be looking out for the poorly matched pairs / groups as they are often the best value if you aren't to fussy.
IMO if they are similar in grade and size as well as fleshed I stick them all in together.
With finished cattle if they are similar they are better off in the biggest batch possible. Procurement buyers that work online are more lively to bid on a batch. They could be buying from half a dozen marts on line at the same time. They are slow to get stuck with a single animal. They will bid on batches of 4++ and arrange a lorry to collect off a couple of marts. They do not want to have to send a truck for a single animal
Good quality continental type cattle are selling well in the marts. Northern buyers are competing for them. However plainer cattle are well as HE and AA are are just about making factory price of you are getting a base of 7.6/ kg. These cattle types are are out of spec for QA whether non QA or movements are not hitting the price of QA cattle.
If your specs are right you have the option of going to the factory. The wheel always turns. The only ones unlimited movements suits are tangler traipsing cattle around the country.
Online has turned it more honest, but it depends on demand. There may not always be someone to drive them on. If there is factory bidders the boys around the ring will share them out
When buying stores I like to buy pens of 4 to 6 on there first day out or farmers cattle as they may be referred to,if returning to the mart as fit cattle I will sell in pens of six evenly matched,as Bass has correctly said these numbers are most favoured by factory buyers.
I think the mart groups is a regional thing, the marts that I do business in Cavan, Meath, Leitrim, Longford, Monaghan are almost all single lot numbers especially at this time of year when numbers have really fallen away…I would be of the opinion that not every buyer wants a few, a butcher might just buy 2 or 3 cattle in a sale but everyone has their own know…
yeah there would nearly be a fear of groups round here in case the seller is trying to hid a bad one
You Will often see a lesser animal in a group but it is not something that puts me off unless he is dodgy altogether,you are buying an average weight after all,I don't keep heifers but I suppose I may not group AA or whiteheads with the single buying butcher in mind.
Will the US-UK trade deal do much to prices? The UK only ever wants cheaper and cheaper food.
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