A girl I work with lives in Blanchardstown, she drives daily to Summerhill in her car. Why t f?
What’s wrong with a modest hatch back?
She’s unmarried and no kids. What the f does she need it for?
How does anyone even survive a 50kph impact, whether with a saloon or SUV?
in this case, the force applied is due to the acceleration of the head - if you were to take the argument you mention to its extreme, being hit at 30km/h by a large cargo ship would cause more than 100,000 times the force being hit by a car would.
Of course it's silly and nonsense. That's the point. I'm pointing how silly and nonsensical it is to take an absolute literal word-for-word interpretation of posts around here, in the way that you and others have been doing with my posts, and only my posts.
But it's ghoulish to see that you can't bear to even speak about road deaths, SUV or otherwise, without playing your standard 'get-out-of-jail' card for drivers, the 'oh it was just a tragedy' so we can't possibly put any responsibility on the driver, whether responsibility for their driving or responsibility for the choice of a vehicle which is proven to be more dangerous to those around it.
Deaths involving SUV drivers aren't that unusual, and happen with alarming regularity. I'm not going to let these be swept under the carpet.
Correct, but not in a RAV4.
Yes it will. Newtons second law of motion, the acceleration or deceleration of an object is dependent upon two variables - the net force acting upon the object and the mass of the object. The mass of the object being a direct relationship to the weight of the object
So if the acceleration is constant, ie the person gets hit at the same speed, and the car decelerates by the same amount as a result of the hit, but the weight is double, the force exerted on a person being hit also doubles.
Indeed, one of the two well known country pickup lines, the other including road frontage euphemisms.
He wasn't asking, he was trying to get the ride.
😂😂
I wasn't specifically talking about myself of course 😁 but even among car circles it was often referenced.
The problem with raptor/ranger etc is the back is outside so it's cold and that may affect things… just like a diesel engine, cold starting problems potentially 😅
and the front with the seat laid down!
So I’m told 👀
A Raptor or Ranger would sure have been handy back then.
Jaysus there'd be a lot of frustrated drivers of car vans if that was the case. Plenty of 'ridin' in the back of golf, bravo,focus etc vans back in the day.
I would have thought the main reason they are being bought is because of the (as you so eloquently describe) bizarre VRT rules you get a lot more vehicle for the money compared to an equivalent SUV.
I wonder will the new trendy ID Buzz with it flat front end become the staple family transport in affluent suburban areas? Is this design more or less risky for kids?
I think it's fairly obvious that a pedestrian getting struck by a vehicle will in all likelihood have worse outcomes the heavier and taller the front of the vehicle is.
i know i was boring people on the topic a few pages back - but i don't think the weight of the vehicle has much bearing, on the assumption the impact has occurred. i suspect it's about what part of the body the vehicle contacts in what way and in what order; and how that part of the vehicle is designed.
e.g. if you hit someone's head with a hard object which is travelling at 50km/h, it will matter little whether that weighs 500kg or 1500kg - the acceleration the head experiences, and thus the damage, will be pretty much indistinguishable.
could be contigent on the level of tinting in the windows?
and to be fair to the farmer, the chap i know, he did ask was sex permissible if it was unpleasurable.
I think it's fairly obvious that a pedestrian getting struck by a vehicle will in all likelihood have worse outcomes the heavier and taller the front of the vehicle is. Get hit by a sportscar / saloon / general sized car and you are most likely getting your legs broken and then landing on the sloped bonnet / windscreen and and perhaps a chance of avoiding head injuries etc. Get hit by an SUV / pick up / commercial van where the front is square and close to head height and it's not broken legs you are looking at but a much higher chance of internal / head injuries. Even without looking at the evidence / meta studies etc that seems fairly obvious to me.
The question posed by the OP is why do people drive these massive cars. And the answer is because they are there to be bought and people will buy what they want and can afford (and with PCP what they can't afford in a lot of cases ;-)) . Some people will buy them because they are big and flashy and they like the perception other people will have of them. Some because they they think they are safer for them and their family but won't give a moment's thought to other people and the safety of their families. Some will buy them because they genuinely require that type of vehicle for their business / hobbies. And then some people will not buy them for all of the above reasons.
Looking at the impact of constantly increasing vehicle footprint and weight is what we should be doing. parking is a nightmare if you happen upon two of these yolks parked between the lines, the are wide enough that the space in between will be very tight for a normal car. Then you get the imbeciles who can't manage to park a large vehicle between the lines and leave no room on one side at all. Or in a traffic jam, i would suggest that the big yolks take up as much space as maybe 1.2 standard family cars (in general) and as a result make a tailback 20% longer than it needs to be? Does this impact on journey times - i don't know, just speculating that it might?
Just last night i was picking up my kid from the gaa club and the carpark was rammed due to a couple of matches being on. It was starting to empty out but accessing spaces was tricky due to cars being 'parked' in the centre of the carpark which is not actually parking. Regular cars, like our leaf, a fiesta, a kona and a tucson, could manoeuvre into the correct parking spaces at the edge of the carpark despite the cars parked in the middle. A ford raptor thingy could only mange to park diagonally across two spaces as there was not sufficient space for it to manoeuvre in correctly. Not sure that it was the vehicle or the driver but my tiny sample reinforces that these types of vehicles are less practical a lot of the time. I probably would have struggled to get my renault trafic parked correctly in the same spot too though. But I don't use the trafic for everyday errands etc if i can in any way avoid it.
Personally i won't be buying a pick up - i think they are the worst design of all vehicles - no secure storage, no space for long things, no advantage for my use case at all. I drive a crew cab van which has about the same footprint of a large pick up, but is way more useful (bikes fit inside, dry storage for things, space for long items inside). Recently i have discovered that revenue rules mean that importing or registering a crew cab van is exponentially more expensive than a crew cab pick up. So maybe some people are being encouraged by the government to move from vans to pick ups due to bizarre VRT rules.
There are so many reasons they are being bought - but i would assume the main one is that the manufacturers are making stacks of cash from them.
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I don't have any problem with it but some people, even on a Motors forum, fly into a meltdown at the sight of an SUV
BTW the EV6 and MG4 are classed as SUVs so tarred with the same massive and inappropriate SUV brush. I understand the new Leaf is also morphing into an 'SUV' so even more faux pain ahead😀
Depends. Is he having sex in the van for pleasure or is he doing it in the hope of creating offspring who will own, live and work on the farm in the future? If the latter I'd say that's using the van for commercial purposes
Most definitely on the hard shoulder
You can have 5 seats as commercial too. N1 (crew cab).
It's €200 a year so while obviously welcome, vastly cheaper might be a little dramatic.
However vast might be a little more appropriate if people were forced to tax 3L petrol or diesel pick ups on the CO2 system
Is it so bad? Looking through the top half of that list Model 3, EV6, MG4, Leaf are all saloon style.
It depends on the nature of the sex.
If the sex is either social, domestic or for pleasure (SDP) you're ok.
Any other class of sex isn't allowed 🙂
Surely this limitation would only apply on the public road!
A lot of posters are full sure that private motor tax is much more expensive than commercial tax, when in reality it's not always more expensive. In a lot of cases, such as yours, it's vastly cheaper to tax privately.
Nowadays when you buy a second hand van you can drive on until the tax runs out.
When you go to renew you need to prove business use and fill out form rf 111a to declare you will only use it for commercial.
After that renewals can be done online.
Does that hold true for my privately taxed N1 EV that is 120 per annum to tax, I could tax it commercially at 333 per year, but as I use it for both I can tax it privately and save 213 euro per annum?
we thought he was joking first, but i was once party to a conversation where a farmer i know who had bought a van, was told by a neighbour of his that he was not allowed have sex in the van because it was a commercial vehicle. that it was not allowed to be used 'for pleasure' under the terms of the categorisation.
Absulutely.
Otherwise there would be no taxis, buses, courier deliveries, ambulances etc. on Sundays.
Ah I think you're father was told a tall tale
