A girl I work with lives in Blanchardstown, she drives daily to Summerhill in her car. Why t f?
What’s wrong with a modest hatch back?
She’s unmarried and no kids. What the f does she need it for?
My pont being you and a couple of other posters seem to be fixated on Rangers which are only bought and driven by self employed and businesses.
What source are you using on which to base this claim? Yis are doing your best to forensically pull peoples points apart yet making baseless claims yourselves!
If you have to resort to accusing other posters of playing the gender card to deflect from a genuine question they asked you, you're only showing that you've already lost the argument.
You're being completely disingenuous Andrew, even for you.
If I require your assistance I will let you know. And when you're done making s** up and have an actual point to make, then I'll reply.
Simply mentioning the fact that a person is a woman does not constitute "playing the gender card".
Oh dear, not again.. would common sense not tell you the reasons?
So why does someone need a 4 wheel drive with off-road tyres to drive down Leeson street? The majority of journey's by motor vehicle in Dublin is 8 km, what's the practical need for a high vehicle weighing almost 2 tonnes to do that journey through city centres? The average car occupancy in Dublin, Ireland is around 1.5 persons per trip, why do I need a large SUV vehicle that can carry 7 people?
Let's see if you can give a couple of straight answers?
?? This whole.thread is about posters venting their anger about SUVs with Range Rovers and Rangers being the most popular targets.
What baseless claims? That the EV9 is actually wider than a Ranger? That a poster described ranger drivers as cnuts? That the vast majority of Rangers are bought by the self employed and businesses?
That the vast majority of Rangers are bought by the self employed and businesses?
That's not what you earlier claimed! Anyhow, you're still making up data.
You did notice the 'for a start' bit, right?
My dad got a bigger car simply because it's easier for him to get in and out of as its higher off the ground and he's old with health problems.
Danny doesn't seem to have any difficulties in entering a standard car though?
And you did notice the 'for a start' bit, right?
'genuine question'? About 'exact measurements'?
Here's a hint - if I want to say something about the maximum permissible size of the vehicle depending on the drivers or occupant(s) or on the infrastructure that they use (ie, roads, car parks, etc.), I'll say something like 'the maximum permissible size of the vehicle depends on the drivers or occupant(s) or on the infrastructure that they use? ie, roads, car parks, etc.'.
Try focusing on what I've actually said, rather than trying to put words into my mouth.
Maybe you could quote my actual words where I literally said that the only metric ……
What did I claim?
Was me quoting you earlier not sufficient? 🙄
The OP's dream car. The Peel p50
So sorry your Honour. Case dismissed on a technicality
I drive both and am regularly accused of being a cnut so maybe theres some truth in it.
You knew what was being asked.
Still being disingenuous.
:-)
Amazing what [edit before Im reprimanded - some] people onsider appropriate when convinced they have the moral high ground
You've no idea what they need when they're not driving down Leeson Street. They could well require it all the time, the point is you've no idea if it's necessary or not. None of us do. It's also none of our fcuking business.
That "if" is carrying a lot of weight there. Fortunately we have the data:
Road fatalities in this country are objectively rare: Around 1 every 300,000,000 vehicle kilometres. Of those, about 3/4 roughly involved occupants of vehicles, roughly 1/4th being pedestrians when last I checked. Of those, a very large number are caused by the pedestrian themselves, not the driver. The number could be as high as 70%.
14-PIN-annual-report-FINAL.pdf
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Safe to say the average Irish driver does not pose a significant danger to the average Irish pedestrian.
The problem is that even if literally everyone was driving a reliant robin or a Nissan Micra, the constant drumbeat of demonisation of "drivers" or "motorists" from certain quarters would continue unabated. I've seen more than enough of it, both on boards here and in real life in terms of regulations on drivers constantly becoming more onerous.
So I say f* it. If you are going to be demonised out of all proportion to reality - and you will be whether you drive a Mini or a Toyota Aygo or something 3 times the size - then buy whatever you want and can afford, and tell the haters what to go do with themselves.
Next time you're up in Dublin, have a walk around (or in your case 4x4 drive) the surrounding areas of Ranelagh, Donnybrook, Ballsbridge and count the numbers of large 4x4 SUV's pakred outside or in the drive that rarely leave the Dublin city area.. Oh and you can tell which are the residents cars, they're the spotlessly clean 251-D… (the dirty older SUV's belong to the contractors working on the residents houses.)
I work in Ranelagh, where many people are business owners or stay-at-home parents juggling the demands of family life—often both at the same time. It's hard not to notice how discussions around cars in this area often seem rooted in jealousy. The residents of Ranelagh frequently make headlines because, let’s face it, they can afford spacious and comfortable vehicles.
Personally, I can't afford a Range Rover, but owning a large car is essential for my needs. My business requires me to transport boxes, and I have two kids who are constantly being loaded in and out of the backseat. A big car is not a luxury for me—it’s a necessity.
One trend I’ve observed is how some older generations, particularly boomers, tend to look down on large cars. There seems to be an unspoken resentment towards younger generations owning bigger vehicles than they did at the same age. Then there are people in their 20s and 30s, often without kids, passionately commenting on environmental concerns. Ironically, I’ve seen these same individuals switch from compact cars like VW Polos to SUVs like Tiguans as soon as their second child is born.
At the end of the day, cars are just cars. Most larger ones are designed on the same platforms as smaller ones. People need different-sized vehicles to suit their circumstances, and that’s okay. Instead of fixating on the size of cars, the real issue we should focus on is how complex and expensive vehicles have become. We need to simplify car designs, lower their costs, and make them more practical to meet everyday needs. Let’s get back to basics!
the point is you've no idea if it's necessary or not. None of us do. It's also none of our fcuking business.
This.
Neighbour bought his wife one of those Hyundai yokes 4x4 absolutely massive car only 3 weeks ago and she's already had two bumps with it one taking their driveway pillar out
If someone managed to 'take out a pillar' then it has little to do with the car they are driving; much more to do with their competence and ability. A soft SUV like a Hyundai would need a lot of impetus to take out a concrete block or brick pillar. Driving competence should be the bigger discussion but simple dislike for SUV's is being masqueraded as "safety concern" / "keeping up with the Jones" / "compensating for small dick".
When you see descriptions of SUV's being described as "tanks" is immediately clear they're completely disingenuous in their posts.
More of the same sh1te, would you give it a bleedin' rest.
that rarely leave the Dublin city area..
Are you camped outside these houses and tracking their whereabouts?………………or are you just embellishing your nonsense statements to make them sound better? Because if you have to keep lying to make your point, perhaps your point is a load of bollocks to begin with?
It's nothing to do with "affording" anything. Most people who drive massive 4x4's have bought them on credit or finance not straight up cash. My wife drives a 2020 Hyundai i20 and i drive a 12 year old Focus. I'm retired at 55 and my wife will retire next year at 55 also and are very comfortable finance wise. One of the reasons we can do that is because we didn't spend silly money on silly cars we don't need and that serve no purpose besides being status symbols.
It is other peoples business where pedestrian safety and use of excess road space is concerned.
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