Bass! Me heart! I thought the arse had fallen out of it going by that post! 😂
Nothing killed yet, heard 7.6 for heifers, 7.5 for bullocks, 25c/ kg bonus on HE have got be under 30 months and 30c on AA. Not sure if there uis more available
At that kind of money you would want 4.3/4.4 LW in the mart to match it.
So anyone kill the past few days or is everyone holding or heading to the mart 🤔
When cattle go out on grass after Winter they will gain carcase weight right away; because of lower gut fill due to rich grass their live weight may decline. Years ago I read that it took 19 days for their livewt to equalize.
Yes, I never had any problem with sending cattle to the factory when restricted. The only time I ever had to fill anything in about it on a form was for the reactor cattle. Buy maybe a factory like Donegal where they were killing for China would have an issue with it.
I have sent away cattle from a restricted herd on a number of occasions . Mentioned that I was restricted to the agent once. He said it made no difference . I never mentioned it again after that. They are loaded with cattle from various herds . No issues .
They wouldn't especially if they have been finished for 90 daysor less they would go from strength to strength but in my opinion I wouldn't see any point in losing part of the QA if they are now fit at a time of a falling market,not too say that it will keep falling but we are dealing with Larry Badman not mother Teresa.
Would factory fit cattle loose much weight if they were let out on grass for a couple of weeks…?
Best of luck with your cattle.
He deals with a few factories, I'll let him have a look anyway and see what's on offer.
I'll keep them in on meal and silage.
I would disregard what the agent says as he has no idea what future quotes will be available, I don't think there is any sense in letting fit cattle coming up on 30 mths out on grass so if they were mine I would mart them in a spot where northern factory's are represented.
The agent says to hold off, they're not full next week and he sees the price coming back up again fairly soon.
I might lose 8c on the QA but I can send bigger numbers and if it goes back up 10c I'll be ok.
Question is now could I let them out to good grass and keep the meal up or will they lose condition quickly?
Still will have to deal with procurement in the factory,. Some will kill on different days for locked up cattle. it used to be a china job that these cattle couldn't come in contact with. Only difference is a few boxes to be ticked on a form
Locked up with TB.
I can sell without restriction to the factory? Dont even have to tell the agent? No extra paperwork needed?
Factories struggling to hold onto.lower bases according to Indo. Quoted bases are 7.4 but 7.7/7.8 are achievable. Flat prices still available for numbers.
If they are out on grass you have options if in a shed I be looking for a price from the factory and see whether they or mart are the better option
Any prices this week?
I see the journal saying another 10c pulled.
I've 4 approaching 30 months now, should I let them go or hold off?
Maybe I should let them off in the mart
Heard the same myself, knoe two agents that have their own cattle ready to sell but they are waiting
Tight pinch coming in May/June 9e on the table was told tonight again I Don't have a crystal ball.
They're trying to pull the price but I've been told they'll still pay good money for good continental cattle.
they’ve pulled them all right but 7.60/7.70 still available and big tightening coming cattle aren’t there factories fairly worried about supplies for next few months
Has anyone heard are prices really back in the factories… the mart prices look to be holding up ok…
I had 1 on a load 2 years ago they are generally not cattle I would buy,he would have weighed over 400kg cold so that's obviously why I got no bonus.
Yes, you generally get 30c on AA and 20c on HE in my experience.
For a 300kg in-spec carcass, an AA would get €90 less €6 per animal set fee so €84 extra.
For a 300kg in-spec carcass, an HE would get €60 less €5 per animal set fee so €55 extra.
Processor pays the bonus, fee goes back to society.
From memory the AA society i'm in was free to join at the time.
There a few Hereford societies that cost around €100 to join each, depending on where you sell you cattle.
Different societies have different rules so worth asking your agent about them. I was roasted previously on a 420kg AA carcass. Super bullock at the time. Factory said anything over 400kg doesn't qualify and they hadn't told me the rules.
@Aly Daly I would be killing there from July to September, I do get the 10 cent on AAx & HEx but that is all. Hence my comment above where I thought you needed to be a group. I know they sometimes have a guy in checking the cattle before they are killed to ensure they are correct AAx cattle, I had a brown CH bullock once (AAx on the card) and they wouldn't pay it.. yet I ve had Frs with AAx on the card and got it...
so it's the processor who pays the bonus
thanks
The society get 6 euro from the slaughter price from AA cattle and 5 euro from HE's. The processors pay the bonus onto the agreed base. The meat is sold at a premium in supermarkets to even there specially selected ranges.
how does it work
do the societies get a kickback from the processor and the supermarkets
I can confirm that this bonus does not automatically apply in a large factory on the Dublin/Meath border which is part of a group.
There making a fortune a friend used to work in the Hereford society said they are generating more money than they can spend bank accounts well over a million in free cash
The consumer. AA beef is sold at a 2-5kg premium over other beef depending on the product specification. The higher spring and autum/winter premium is to encourage supply when the product is tight