A girl I work with lives in Blanchardstown, she drives daily to Summerhill in her car. Why t f?
What’s wrong with a modest hatch back?
She’s unmarried and no kids. What the f does she need it for?
Other drivers also bully smaller vehicles on the road, not just trucks.
I'm going to drive the vehicle I feel safest in (even if that safety is an illusion). If for some people, that's an SUV, then that's fine by me.
If I recall correctly, even Eamon Ryan drove an 8 seater VW van, because he had four kids (one disabled).
Like I said, who gets to decide (or thinks they even have a right to decide) what is "unnecessarily" large for another family.
In your first example the bus would have been similarly blocked by the same number of large saloon cars badly parked.
In the second one the driver deserved to be fined for parking in a disability spot.
Your surely not suggesting that only pickups park badly or in disability spots.
Here we go, an example of one of those unnecessarily large vehicles been driven by someone who doesn’t give too forks about anyone else… typical! The driver picked up a nice €160 fine for parking in a disabled spot. You can also see how this ridiculous truck can’t even fit in the spot and it’s wheels are out on the road.
Another one missing the point.
In my case at least, the argument wasn't that too much space was being taken over, but that the roads weren't capable of handling vehicles that big.
This is, objectively, a giant pile of horseh1t and demonstrably false.
If a truck driver wants to bully another road user, it doesn't matter if they're driving a Micra, a C3 or an X5 - they're all tiny and equally squishable in comparison to a fully laden truck.
You had them at “a load of sh1te”
The reality is that these types who want to dictate how people live just want to impose their own tastes and hobbies on others. It’s nothing to do with safety or the environment. In Galway the former chair of one of the cycling lobbying groups is a particularly odious individual who criticises all and sundry who dare to drive SUVs or pretty much anything, but drives a big VW van himself, bigger than any SUV. That’s the type of hypocrisy that’s behind all these “concerns”
Hatred of so called SUVs is imported from loony cycling and ecowarriors in the US. SUVs there are literally trucks. What we have in Ireland are much smaller and a complete non issue
Kinda ironic, your first sentence, given the fact that you've completely missed my point, whether that was wilfully or not.
The original point made was "I do not think our roads and urban areas are designed for the large SUVs". My point is…….If the roads were designed for, and can handle, vehicles that are much, much larger than any SUV found in this country, that point is, to put it bluntly, a load of sh1te.
I never said we should allow anything, least of all private vehicles that are as large as fire tenders, that's you creating a strawman argument because, again, you missed the point completely. But here's the kicker. We DO allow private vehicles as large as them on the roads. They're already everywhere. If the roads can handle bin trucks then they can handle a Ranger Raptor no problem.
But, yeah, you go ahead and keep countering arguments that weren't being made, good lad.
Who decides what is "unnecessarily" large?
If someone has four kids, they may need an SUV or a seven seater.
Or they may just feel unsafe in a small car. I drove a fiat seicento for years, and I loved it, but I was regularly bullied on the road, sometimes dangerously, and most definitely on motorways.
I moved up to a punto, then a citroen C3, and now drive a micra, and I still get bullied sometimes (most recently was nearly ran of the M50 by a very aggressive truck driver) but not as much as when I drove the seicento.
I would love an VW UP or VW Fox, but I will never go back to "the smallest possible" car for my needs, ever again.
Just my two cents worth.
Jeeze. Explain which cars are the problem in the picture, that golf at the front is as big a problem as anything there.
And all to drive little Fiadh and Faolán 1km around the corner because it's "too dangerous" for them to walk or cycle (due to the numbers of oversized SUV cars on the roads)
Jeeze if you can't see the obvious issues from that photo then what are you doing replying to people in this thread?
The issues are that the vast majority of our streets and roads aren't designed for the masses to drive oversized SUV type vehicles, and the pic was a classic example… We're not the USA or Australia where they design their cities and urban areas around the motor vehicle..
I often see this scenario at St Mary's school Rathmines in the morning rush hour, with a big Volvo or Beamer jeep plonked across the bus lane when exiting the school, blocking what must be hundreds of people on buses and a bunch of cyclists too. Ignorant as hell.
it's kinda funny, to be fair. people arguing that too much space in urban areas has been taken over to cater for the car, and that cars are getting unnecessarily big, are met with 'but what about lorries?'
which are necessarily big.
not sure if this sort of response is wilfully trying to miss the point?
it's basically saying 'fire tenders need to be big enough to carry half a dozen firefighters, and all the firefighting gear that entails, so we may as well allow private vehicles to be as big as that anyway'.
i don't see fire tenders being used to do the shopping, drop kids off at school, what have you.
(and FWIW those big rigs that carry mobile homes usually have escort vehicles, so they're quite clearly excessively large)
How are they blocking it? You need the context of the picture anyway, picture could be just taken of a car with a bus driving along. Or more likely from that picture, there cars waiting to enter somewhere so wouldn't matter what's been driven, the bus would need to wait, or if it's bad parking, where the 2 cars are obviously with the back ends out to the road, then nothing really to do with SUVs, it's bad driving, no?
Count the number of SUV's blocking this Bus which carry's 90 people, Vs. the numbers of emergency vehicles and camper vans blocking it?
(let's ignore all the parked cars for now)
Great point. Ambulances, fire brigade trucks, those big rigs that carry mobile homes……..all fine, but you in your Tucson, nah, the roads aren't suitable.
I did drive a very small Kia Picanto, a tiny tiny car.
But back in 2000 I bought a year old (191) Ssangyong XLV ,, a much bigger car,, and now would never go back.
Not for any money..
Yes. That’s correct. Anti choice types don’t resent tractors, lorries etc so they are acceptable, but SUVs are not!
Our roads are OK to be used used for tractors, with trailers, Articulated lorries, large vans, etc but not for SUV types?
I don't care what car you have, I do not think our roads and urban areas are designed for the large SUVs that are increasingly common.
I've lived in the US and Australia that they were designed for and they make more sense there.
I have a right to not like what you drive if it is huge for no reason...
Fella driving that is a cnut. No need to even meet the person.
I drive my 5.3 litre V12 or my little 1.6 “hot hatch” depending on whatever I fancy on any given day. I couldn’t give a sh1te what anyone thinks. And it’s noones business except my own.
And the “diesels have DPF filters” comment above. What do you think happens to the particulates the DPF captures? Greatest Green Party sponsored con job ever.
Good point. It's like when I argue we shouldn't be penalised for all the data centres. We're literally hosting half of Europe's internet. If not here then somewhere else.
Don't be too worried about that, diesels not have Dpf filters,
Do you want a medal?
the 'but china' argument handily ignores the fact that it has become the world's factory. of course they have a large carbon footprint, we get them to make our stuff for us and then complain they produce a lot of CO2.
Snorkels on Off Road cars that never leave the road (bar a a driveway) are the stupidest dumbest thing out there. They usually seen on cars that are imaculately clean that wouldn't be anywhere near water.
You drive a car through river that's burst its banks and the paintwork is effectively destroyed by the sediment carried in the water.
I’d hazard a guess that most diesel drivers (including myself) couldn’t care less about your children.
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